Very Sorry to hear That Josh.

Gray

Puts things into perspective, really sorry for your loss pal

Mike

My deepest condolences for the passing of your mother Josh.

Craig

Sad to hear. My deepest sympathies.

Sorry to hear that Josh..Condolences mate

As for the handicapping, I think it is just a simple tweak that was needed wasn't it? I think Craig was doing fine, but was just handicapping exactly, almost textbook like you would in real life. I think it would have only took a little experience to do the slight adjustment the league needs, given the gaps are different to real life and league horses an trainers. It was literally a very slight difference.

I also think maybe Craig was taking comments a little to heart, which is a shame as I haven't seen a vindictive comment just yet, Dan was just a little upset his horse was pulled out so late which is understandable as it's not nice a horse not being able to run through no real fault of your own. On the other hand, I think he just thought someone had a look at the rating and changed it after entries had closed, which isn't the case, obviously it's nobody's fault, it's just a glitch that unfortunately nothing could be done and is going to happen.

I think we just need to be careful with things escalating sometimes through misunderstandings, it happens sometimes that people are discussing 2 different subjects without realising. I think trainers do need to realise the effort you guys put into the races too, H'cappers, Comms, Gray, Leon, Race Runners. And every now an then, something will go wrong that may effect us as a trainer, but it needs to be accepted for what it is 'a mistake', and try to move on, as what you guys do, really does benefit the lot of us.

Hopefully Craig will still be involved in helping running the league as there are other roles that need some help and they not as stressful or time consuming as handicapping. He has some useful horses as well. Handicapping has always been a difficult job. It's not quite like real life as a season starts with all G1 horses in maidens that's why the race kit gets it so wrong. Also trainers run horses at wrong distances etc and this needs to be taking into account before adjusting ratings, but this all come from experience.

Mike thank you for your offer I will keep you in mind and I hope the new Handicapper needs any advice come to you and seek some advice I know you don't have a jumps stable this season but ever thought of doing the Jump Handicapping ? has I do many jobs behind the scene and can never get anyone to take that one off me,


Gray

I personally have no problem with the new handicapper. I would let him carry on and learn from his mistakes, This is meant to be for fun nothing more.
I know we all put days on days breeding horses but at the end of the day we are still playing and enjoying the game we all love. So it's not exactly torture having to play a fun game breeding horses for the league.

I myself have a horse i feel has been given a bad mark but you know what i carry on racing him in races he has no chance of winning and i'm still having fun. I will still have as much anticipation waiting for him to run in a g1 he can't win with the 0.001% chance he some how does than i would him running in a 0-90 where i believe he can win the odd race. I will still enter him in group race after group race and still have a great time doing so even if he does finish near the back most times.

I think we just need to remember we are all here to be part of a community and have fun. Your horse is rated 110 should be 90 who cares? Just race it anywhere and have fun. Let the handicapper learn his role and maybe 3-4 weeks down the line he has nailed it and everyone is happy. Your horse has been scratched? who cares wait for next week and enjoy the other runners you may have again just have fun with it.

This is my stupid view anyway just enjoy what we have there are far more important things to worry about than badly handicapped horses

Josh my sincere condolences god knows what you are going through thoughts and prayers with you mate

Not looking to profit from anything, my horse was rated 100 on the website (at the deadline) and entered a 0-100 handicap. As I have said it would not have won at top weight and in a large field. I was just trying to find a way that this could not happen again to me or anyone else, hence why I asked for deadline ratings be final.

You are the first person to say it was impossible for the horses to race due to technical issues, if that is true, I am happy with that explanation. Githyanki seemed to indicate that the horses could have ran.

I think it is ambitious to ask everyone to check every horse's racing to check if it has or has not changed and point it out to the handicapper. I presumed he had not changed it because he thought the rating was correct to stay at 100.

It appears that the handicapper made an error that resulted in horses being scratched from races which wasn't fair on trainers. I thought the horses could and should have ran anyway but if you say that's impossible then fair enough, mistakes happen. Handicapper doesn't need to lose his job, just needs to be more careful.

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Mike thank you for your offer I will keep you in mind and I hope the new Handicapper needs any advice come to you and seek some advice I know you don't have a jumps stable this season but ever thought of doing the Jump Handicapping ? has I do many jobs behind the scene and can never get anyone to take that one off me,


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No problem mate, here to help out whoever it is. As for the NH I have to politely refuse, i think the flat is easy with my knowledge but I couldn’t even entertain the NH with fallers, refusing, bad jumps! It’s just not for me tbh pal but I will help out if you ever need it no problem at all mate. But as full time it’s just too much a headache

Hi gray, keep me in mind for future jobs.

would love to help out.

Hi Ryan Race Runners and Commentators are always welcome Handicapping can be a hard job but if you would like to race Run Next season Around September I would take you up with that and offer you a go at it you will need a Drop Box Account but this costs and the free one doesn't give you enough space to upload race files which can be large.

Again I can offer you a go at Commentating if you want to try this I can have a word with Martin I see if he needs another Commentator to Help out the Team and you could do that this Season.

Gray

yes i could take anything thats there. Just give me a shout when needed.

thanks