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Only done a small amount of breeding on my new US game, and I have to say there maybe something in this. My first cycle produced a 95-97% 2yo 6f who is maxed at 3yo. And I have hit two 90% 2yo 2m+ horses. Both are better than what my UK game has offered.

No idea what they will trial like but on paper they have promise.


Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:42 pm
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I've played this game from the very first version. Participated in many leagues. Some before this message board was around. My performance was bad back then but I progressively got better to the point were being in the middle was expected. I purposely aimed low this year because I gave up hope on trying to compete with the top 5 - whomever they are each season.

I breed my best stats with my best stats. I keep a excel sheet with stats galore on it. Slowly but surely my horse's are becoming better and better but in the back of my mind I know I won't be challenging the god trainers.

90% of my gameplay is from the US game. For years now. Now the two most godlike players of the game and now a soon to be godlike trainer have provided anecdotal evidence that hey! just drop your insanely well bred UK mares into the US game and breed them to the US sires and your Pegasus horse will now be Pegasus on steroids.

I've bred my mares to countless gamebred sires for years now and the +90 potential 2yo's are extremely rare. These include 90 potential mares at 2yo who hit 100 at 4.

Forgive me for being a bit disappointed about this development if it turns out to be true. Maybe it is the US sire or maybe it's the fact your mares are extremely well bred and it is their stats that are the overwhelming deciding factor on whether they have near full potential at 2?

In essence my "rant" is a culmination of being disappointed yet again in my quest to be a serious Group 1 challenger.

And Paul, it was a good natured rant about the vagaries of the game and not you.

Or maybe it was my subconscious posting a belated response to your joking insults you posted in the live stream the two weeks after I dared speak up about players entering last out Group 1 winners in Listed races. You know, here you graciously accepted my perhaps brash request to remove your undefeated Group 1 winner from a third week listed race and I thanked you. Yet when I joined the live stream I saw a long barrage of insults from you and others about an issue I thought would benefit all the players. That is why you didn't see me in the live stream for the rest of the year.

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I implemented a more liberal approach to rating mid season first timers last season. I too was unhappy with high ratings for horses who most likely would be low handicappers. I believe I found a decent formula for dealing with mid pack and back end finishing first timers. This thinking will be applied for the next season and I am probably going to be more liberal with the ratings.

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I've played this game from the very first version. Participated in many leagues. Some before this message board was around. My performance was bad back then but I progressively got better to the point were being in the middle was expected. I purposely aimed low this year because I gave up hope on trying to compete with the top 5 - whomever they are each season.

I breed my best stats with my best stats. I keep a excel sheet with stats galore on it. Slowly but surely my horse's are becoming better and better but in the back of my mind I know I won't be challenging the god trainers.

90% of my gameplay is from the US game. For years now. Now the two most godlike players of the game and now a soon to be godlike trainer have provided anecdotal evidence that hey! just drop your insanely well bred UK mares into the US game and breed them to the US sires and your Pegasus horse will now be Pegasus on steroids.

I've bred my mares to countless gamebred sires for years now and the +90 potential 2yo's are extremely rare. These include 90 potential mares at 2yo who hit 100 at 4.

Forgive me for being a bit disappointed about this development if it turns out to be true. Maybe it is the US sire or maybe it's the fact your mares are extremely well bred and it is their stats that are the overwhelming deciding factor on whether they have near full potential at 2?

In essence my "rant" is a culmination of being disappointed yet again in my quest to be a serious Group 1 challenger.

And Paul, it was a good natured rant about the vagaries of the game and not you.

Or maybe it was my subconscious posting a belated response to your joking insults you posted in the live stream the two weeks after I dared speak up about players entering last out Group 1 winners in Listed races. You know, here you graciously accepted my perhaps brash request to remove your undefeated Group 1 winner from a third week listed race and I thanked you. Yet when I joined the live stream I saw a long barrage of insults from you and others about an issue I thought would benefit all the players. That is why you didn't see me in the live stream for the rest of the year.



Insults what? the week you asked me to remove my horse from a G3 i jokingly said (In The live stream)
all my future nominations now go through Sirius i knew you were there and saw it it was a complete joke making
light of the situation how on gods earth can you say that was an insult insulting people just is not in me I also
dont tell lies and when i found what i found last week i disclosed it straight away again I could have kept quiet
there are full bar 2YO in the USA Game no doubting that whether you have seen them or not they are there a horse
potential can not go up if you breed a 90% with a 90% horse they produce a 90% horse sometimes lower never higher.

I have always had the greatest respect for you Sirius and still do dont shoot the messenger and I have never insulted you
Sirius never

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Other way round for me Sirius. I took 6 of my best trial colts, 6f, 7f 1m 1.1m, 1.4m and 2.2m they are all top draw likely G1 league class, though at 2yo have only 90% the 6f is closer to 95% and it was he that produced the improvement. I breed them with all US fillies and mares. I have since added in a bundle of my best trailing fillies though the game colts have yet to deliver. I do now also have a 6f and 1m 97% at 2yo breeding with them.

Based on some quick breeding seasons I would like Paul conclude there must be full potential 2yo's in the game, probably in 6f horses. Cannot speak for your experience but I have hit upon them quickly albeit with top notch breeding stock.


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Githyanki wrote:
Other way round for me Sirius. I took 6 of my best trial colts, 6f, 7f 1m 1.1m, 1.4m and 2.2m they are all top draw likely G1 league class, though at 2yo have only 90% the 6f is closer to 95% and it was he that produced the improvement. I breed them with all US fillies and mares. I have since added in a bundle of my best trailing fillies though the game colts have yet to deliver. I do now also have a 6f and 1m 97% at 2yo breeding with them.

Based on some quick breeding seasons I would like Paul conclude there must be full potential 2yo's in the game, probably in 6f horses. Cannot speak for your experience but I have hit upon them quickly albeit with top notch breeding stock.



the one that covered my mare was in the second season of my game

you can see him here in the game in 2016 and in the shed in 2017 I had the game
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This fella for sure was a full bar 2yo if only i could see his stats but sure he was
he covered a 95% potential 3YO and they threw out a 97% 2YO so do the maths :lol:

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Amanasi New is a 2.2m, Windy City the 1m and release scarlet is 6f

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Another point of note, in my uk game I have produced one full potential 3yo colt, he is awful at trail. For months now I have been breeding him to bring that potential on, usually it is left behind, and when it does pass on the horses also trial appalling badly, my US experience sees this being breed on at lot, maybe 50% of the time. Though they may also trial badly.


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Not sure how yours have fared Paul but I have bred on from 6f to 1.4m now to continue the experiment, trials at 2yo are ok, trials at 3yo disappointing. My old bred lines have them beat hands down.

I have also not found another game horse who bred in high potential, just the one filly in an early season.


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just done the milers i will show you a pic of them now 2 to 4 lengths better than what i had
working on epsom horses now

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This is my 2000 Guineas horse Sweet Chillie 98% potential at 2
full bar 3YO and has all the other stats that took me an age to build
Cruising burst is a tad down but what i love is the american breds LOVE
to front run and my old horses cant get the lead anymore in fact 4 or 5 lengths
detached after a furlong and they really stick on

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My epsom horses will have more CB and hopefully all the other stats I think its as close to
the perfect horse as i can get going by stats bars

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My issue is on cruising burst I figure, they are short yours and my main breeding lines who beat them. More tinkering required.


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These American Breds just love to hit the front

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oh come on we need a bit of realism here, they should be getting tailed off on the turf :wink:

And none of them would act round Epsom haha


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Trialled a little further and you'll be happy to know mine mostly suck unless on dirt :)

2yo 1m and 1.2m is a minor say 1L improvement. But I am pleased for Paul he has struggled to compete with his 3yo's ;)


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