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Author:  simpleminds [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Should The League allow Group1 Debut Runners

Should The League Allow Group 1 Race Debutants Poll will run for 7 Days

Author:  NPG319 [ Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should The League allow Group1 Debut Runners

Is this for both Flat and Hunt?

Author:  simpleminds [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Should The League allow Group1 Debut Runners

NPG319 wrote:
Is this for both Flat and Hunt?




Yes Doug

Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Should The League allow Group1 Debut Runners

i see no harm in it infact no idea why it was a rule in the first place
if i owned a horse in real life i can run it in a group one on debut if
i wanted to and it was a small field

Author:  ghostzapper74 [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Should The League allow Group1 Debut Runners

There is one major problem with this and that is what happens if we have to many runners , who goes!!! I think it would be unfair to say some trainer couldn't have a runner because they weren't as good last season or this.

Author:  NPG319 [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Should The League allow Group1 Debut Runners

ghostzapper74 wrote:
There is one major problem with this and that is what happens if we have to many runners , who goes!!! I think it would be unfair to say some trainer couldn't have a runner because they weren't as good last season or this.


On the flat i can safely say i wont be entering any set weight G1s. In the hunt i would probably use it so i can qualify a chaser to hurdles or vica versa.

If there were too many in one race on the flat i guess we could cull using Sirius' end of season ratings chart and any first season trainers.
I don't think it would happen.
At the start of season 4 we had G1s on the first week and there wasn't any field size dramas.

I guess it would only suit the Group trainers - instead of having to run in a maiden, you can go straight into a G1 if you desire and i think this would make things easier in weeks 6 and 7.
It would also take some heat out of the maidens. Let's face it John, if yourself, Paul, Jim, Josh and Thunderspark all have a horse in a Maiden race - well it's pretty much a G1 but not in name and if we have more double entries in those weeks for G1s then there should be enough races for all your current and new horses.

Author:  simpleminds [ Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Should The League allow Group1 Debut Runners

When the poll is over and done I will set out the rule that any horse which as run takes priority over any Debutant I am looking at this rule for Ascot and new uploads Ascot will have a set 24 Group Race limit horses which have run get first slot if Limit is not reached and room for double Entries then its again horses with form and Lowest rating horses are scratched.
If limit is still not reached and we have a case where their are 5 Debutants for two slots then it would be done alphabetically as in other Races.

WE allowed Debutants in the Dubai World cup Meeting as its in week 1 16 limit field so it has to be done by top 16 Trainers from last season in Both Flat and National Hunt For new Races added in week 1 as I might put in some Quality Races in week 1 but NH Limit is 30 so I doubt that would be affected.

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