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Doug I don't know how much u have played 7 but unlike 6 where if u bred a full potential colt with a full potential mare then u would get a full bar potential 100 percent of the time in this game I would say it's about a 5 percent in this game so u have 0 percent control of it.


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Gray - Hold off with the poll for now just to make sure everyone has time to comment and debate it first. Maybe wait a couple of days.


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Mike were you not a member of the league when i first joined must be 10 years ago when cheating was rife and im told
encouraged by those who ran it if you were "one of the lads" which i was not or they thought i would have exposed them i lasted
1 week in the league and gave up im told also people were clubbing together sharing horse files even groups of people
cliches i was told this years later by someone involved who has long left the forum. Thankfully the league has come on a million
miles since then if the stats bars put those people off im glad they are not here they were cheats not saying that you were by the way

Also i only look at the bars anything rubbish i get rid off i have no clue what you are going on about that someone who has
time has an advantage with the bars its utter rubbish its all about how horses perform in the CK which


yes Doug throws up some strange results but is pivotal.

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Okay so I am a league trainer with some success and I honestly cant remember how i got started into it but all i know is most people on here were very helpful when I wanted to take the breeding to the next level so thank you all for that. I have said before a while ago I am striggling to get anywhere in SO7 and havent played much as I am churning out horses left right and centre with very limited success. I am in favour of a league mode where the ttf cant be exploited and I think this in itself will level out the playing field. Regarding the hiding of the stats I personally think it will create a nightmare for trialling purposes and I will be unsure if I will participate as I like to look at a glance whether the horse may be good or absolute rubbish. I personally dont have the time to trial everything and so would be in favour of keeping the stats available yet creating a league mode where the ttf files cant be used
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Mike were you not a member of the league when i first joined must be 10 years ago when cheating was rife and im told
encouraged by those who ran it if you were "one of the lads" which i was not or they thought i would have exposed them i lasted
1 week in the league and gave up im told also people were clubbing together sharing horse files even groups of people
cliches i was told this years later by someone involved who has long left the forum. Thankfully the league has come on a million
miles since then if the stats bars put those people off im glad they are not here they were cheats not saying that you were by the way

Also i only look at the bars anything rubbish i get rid off i have no clue what you are going on about that someone who has
time has an advantage with the bars its utter rubbish its all about how horses perform in the CK which


yes Doug throws up some strange results but is pivotal.



This period you're talking about is when I played. It was the time of 'hexing' (this is being able to edit horse file so if you had a beast, you could simply change it's sex and change it's age an duplicate it as many times as you wanted. Changing it's name and Even the age). and is the reason I left the league, only returning about 18 months ago. I don't think I understand what this post is really? Those people don't play because 'hexing' was stopped and they were all exposed. The stats bars are irrelevant to this. If anything the stats bars would have helped those people so the reverse seems to apply to your post. I apologise if I've mis-read it.

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Mike were you not a member of the league when i first joined must be 10 years ago when cheating was rife and im told
encouraged by those who ran it if you were "one of the lads" which i was not or they thought i would have exposed them i lasted
1 week in the league and gave up im told also people were clubbing together sharing horse files even groups of people
cliches i was told this years later by someone involved who has long left the forum. Thankfully the league has come on a million
miles since then if the stats bars put those people off im glad they are not here they were cheats not saying that you were by the way

Also i only look at the bars anything rubbish i get rid off i have no clue what you are going on about that someone who has
time has an advantage with the bars its utter rubbish its all about how horses perform in the CK which


yes Doug throws up some strange results but is pivotal.



This period you're talking about is when I played. It was the time of 'hexing' (this is being able to edit horse file so if you had a beast, you could simply change it's sex and change it's age an duplicate it as many times as you wanted. Changing it's name and Even the age). and is the reason I left the league, only returning about 18 months ago. I don't think I understand what this post is really? Those people don't play because 'hexing' was stopped and they were all exposed. The stats bars are irrelevant to this. If anything the stats bars would have helped those people so the reverse seems to apply to your post. I apologise if I've mis-read it.


I Did not know it was that extreme.

Mike was saying (Unless I read it wrong) that the stats bars put off some trainers from back then from entering the new league So5/6 my point was maybe thats a good thing the league may not have been the clean league it has been.

From my memory only one person has ever got a life ban from the league and was not from that time
so i dont think they were exposed but then I never saw any of this info you have posted on the forum back then either
so maybe all that was done in private.

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pjrhodes1970 wrote:
kniesh wrote:
pjrhodes1970 wrote:
Mike were you not a member of the league when i first joined must be 10 years ago when cheating was rife and im told
encouraged by those who ran it if you were "one of the lads" which i was not or they thought i would have exposed them i lasted
1 week in the league and gave up im told also people were clubbing together sharing horse files even groups of people
cliches i was told this years later by someone involved who has long left the forum. Thankfully the league has come on a million
miles since then if the stats bars put those people off im glad they are not here they were cheats not saying that you were by the way

Also i only look at the bars anything rubbish i get rid off i have no clue what you are going on about that someone who has
time has an advantage with the bars its utter rubbish its all about how horses perform in the CK which


yes Doug throws up some strange results but is pivotal.



This period you're talking about is when I played. It was the time of 'hexing' (this is being able to edit horse file so if you had a beast, you could simply change it's sex and change it's age an duplicate it as many times as you wanted. Changing it's name and Even the age). and is the reason I left the league, only returning about 18 months ago. I don't think I understand what this post is really? Those people don't play because 'hexing' was stopped and they were all exposed. The stats bars are irrelevant to this. If anything the stats bars would have helped those people so the reverse seems to apply to your post. I apologise if I've mis-read it.


I Did not know it was that extreme.

Mike was saying (Unless I read it wrong) that the stats bars put off some trainers from back then from entering the new league So5/6 my point was maybe thats a good thing the league may not have been the clean league it has been.

From my memory only one person has ever got a life ban from the league and was not from that time
so i dont think they were exposed but then I never saw any of this info you have posted on the forum back then either
so maybe all that was done in private.


It was pretty much the whole top 10 trainers doing it back then. The forum was called something else if I remember right but can't remember the name. I finished 4th one season on the flat, but I was in conversations with people who swapped horses, hex'd horses an swapped saved games constantly. I did do it once an used a flat horse I had in the jumps season, he had 1 win but it definitely wasn't for me really so I left as it was being used so much. It was pretty much common place so widely accepted. I don't think I recognize any of the trainers from back then. Sure it was SO3/4. It is a million miles from what's happening now though so probably best left in the past. The reason I came back is because it was all stopped.

I did know a trainer who had a 3yo colt who pretty much won every 1m race for older horses, 2yo's an 3yos, it was insane

I kept in touch with a couple of the lads and I believe all the trouble came the season after I left. It was all done from chats on MSN messenger, it was that long ago.

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Mike was playing when I first Joined also joined for a few weeks in SO5 for one season I believe someone called Rich was running the league when I Finally joined and retired and left after that season and never came back.

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That's interesting to know back then , I think I would have taken a different approach to most then because I would have wanted to give the cheaters a run for their money . I would have stuck around and did my very best to give them a run for their money while not cheating so I could turn around and shove it up their backside and I wouldn't have cared if they all was friends . My first season I was useless :lol: :lol: I entered a horse in the league that I never ran in game and ran green in the league , Andy dominated ( I think he cheated ) but I wanted to give him a run for his money .


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That's interesting to know back then , I think I would have taken a different approach to most then because I would have wanted to give the cheaters a run for their money . I would have stuck around and did my very best to give them a run for their money while not cheating so I could turn around and shove it up their backside and I wouldn't have cared if they all was friends . My first season I was useless :lol: :lol: I entered a horse in the league that I never ran in game and ran green in the league , Andy dominated ( I think he cheated ) but I wanted to give him a run for his money .


I'm with you on that one, I tend to love a challenge, an I thought I'd done ok to get to 4th, but back then there was no real quick fixes, it was all about trialing an going along the best horses lines, once they were ahead then using that best colt to fill all slots regardless of age an sex it became very difficult an just not worth it. I was so glad when I got back years later to see it had changed, unfortunately i was then about 2 years behind in the breeding :)

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I was around in the days of people Hexing. Funnily enough i never did any of that (Hexing) and still was very competitive, specially in the NH Leagues. It was more rife in the flat leagues than in the NH leagues. Yes people used to swap horse files to trail against one another. This was very common back then but i didn't know people swapped saved files also.

I've helped many people over the years and you are right the CK is key to league horses no matter how good they are in the game. Trailing can be a total nightmare, not sure how it is now in the latest version of the game?

Been playing it for fun over the past few months. But keen on entering a few league horses for nostalgia purposes. Guess i have some free time nowadays. A lot of people are right if you put the hours in, you will get rewarded in the league will better horses, some casual players will get lucky and find a good one. I used to play 5/6 hours per day for 2 years or more back in the day.

It's good to see people are passionate about this game and the league for that matter.

Great to see the likes of Paul and Simpleminds still around. Kniesh you was around when i was in the league.

I like the idea of hiding stats. Brings a fresh element to the game. Frustrating for sure, but like most things you will get used to it. Maybe trail it for a month or so and see how it goes.


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I was around in the days of people Hexing. Funnily enough i never did any of that (Hexing) and still was very competitive, specially in the NH Leagues. It was more rife in the flat leagues than in the NH leagues. Yes people used to swap horse files to trail against one another. This was very common back then but i didn't know people swapped saved files also.

I've helped many people over the years and you are right the CK is key to league horses no matter how good they are in the game. Trailing can be a total nightmare, not sure how it is now in the latest version of the game?

Been playing it for fun over the past few months. But keen on entering a few league horses for nostalgia purposes. Guess i have some free time nowadays. A lot of people are right if you put the hours in, you will get rewarded in the league will better horses, some casual players will get lucky and find a good one. I used to play 5/6 hours per day for 2 years or more back in the day.

It's good to see people are passionate about this game and the league for that matter.

Great to see the likes of Paul and Simpleminds still around. Kniesh you was around when i was in the league.

I like the idea of hiding stats. Brings a fresh element to the game. Frustrating for sure, but like most things you will get used to it. Maybe trail it for a month or so and see how it goes.


Hi Hemz did you go to Cheltenham this year and did you get interviewed by ITV bevause i think i saw a post where you said you was and a guy on TV was asked about Brexit and he replied i live in New Zealand now and didn't care aabout it wasn't you was it lol.

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I was around in the days of people Hexing. Funnily enough i never did any of that (Hexing) and still was very competitive, specially in the NH Leagues. It was more rife in the flat leagues than in the NH leagues. Yes people used to swap horse files to trail against one another. This was very common back then but i didn't know people swapped saved files also.

I've helped many people over the years and you are right the CK is key to league horses no matter how good they are in the game. Trailing can be a total nightmare, not sure how it is now in the latest version of the game?

Been playing it for fun over the past few months. But keen on entering a few league horses for nostalgia purposes. Guess i have some free time nowadays. A lot of people are right if you put the hours in, you will get rewarded in the league will better horses, some casual players will get lucky and find a good one. I used to play 5/6 hours per day for 2 years or more back in the day.

It's good to see people are passionate about this game and the league for that matter.

Great to see the likes of Paul and Simpleminds still around. Kniesh you was around when i was in the league.

I like the idea of hiding stats. Brings a fresh element to the game. Frustrating for sure, but like most things you will get used to it. Maybe trail it for a month or so and see how it goes.


Hi Hemz did you go to Cheltenham this year and did you get interviewed by ITV bevause i think i saw a post where you said you was and a guy on TV was asked about Brexit and he replied i live in New Zealand now and didn't care aabout it wasn't you was it lol.

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Hey Gray,

Yes i did go to Cheltenham this year. I did speak with someone when i was there about Brexit but not sure if it was ITV, i could be wrong. Shame i'll not be visiting the best horse racing festival in the world next year or the foreseeable future. It's so expensive and the journey is horrible. It's the one thing i truly miss living here in New Zealand.


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who keeps deleting my messages ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????


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who keeps deleting my messages ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????



Are you sure it was this thread Del :lol:

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