Go suck a duck Steve

Bloody kids

Got 1 or 2 that are equally good over more than 1 distance. Hoping they will be running in group races but they are Michaelangelo 1m6 to 2m. Troy 2m2 to 2m4 Voice of Doom 5/6 and Unmatched 7/8f. A few of mine never ran on the flat so not sure what their best flat distance is. Just basing things on their Ck runs.

The ratings system needs to be looked at in future I think. The rules are a bit strict regarding distances in my opinion. The rules need to be worded better also. Everyone has horses that are good over multiple distances. I think when uploading horses and asked for preferred distance it should be changed to a 2 furlong bracket not just 1 distance. For example, 5f and 6f only, 6f and 7f only, 7f and 8f only, 8f and 9f only, 9 and 10f only etc etc. That way if you were running a horse and you picked the distance of 6f and 7f only for it your horse will get a penalty then if it runs in a 5f race or any distance above 7f. At the moment I could have a 6f horse that could stay 7f and 5 would be too sharp or I could have a 6f horse who wouldn't stay 7f but could win 5f races. That's why the preferred distance needs to be a 2f bracket. I think this would help in future.

Just looking at race 7, week 1 NH. Horses from 7th to 12th are all rated 100. Horse 13th and 14th are rated 99. Horse placed 15th is rated 100. Anyone care to explain how a horse in 15th gets the same rating of the horse that placed 7th and gets a higher mark than 2 horses that finished in front of it that got 99?. They all didn't cross the line at the same time. I spotted that and some other problems in other races too.

i thought it ran quite well last seaon just needed the sprinters/milers to run within 1f

anyway lets hope it works out and everyone knows about the rule before week 2 maidens start

btw Rich what about nhc any rule changes there?

New rules have been put in another thread.

The NHC does not have a handicapper. I only do the job for the flat.

The construction kit puts in the new ratings for NHC which are incorrect.

There's no way a 5f horse would get anywhere near the places in a 6f race. When a horse extends beyond it's maximum stamina range it get hits by a train. However a 6f horse could theoretically do OK in a 5f race. I'd like to see SO5 expand this so sprinters are effective over 5 and 6f but at the moment it just isn't the case.



The horses that finished above yours and were well placed and faded away. Yours was never in it so how can any handicapping information be gleaned from it? I think the game probably recognises that your horse is better than that, maybe if the pace was stronger.

Rich although I agree mainly with what you have said re distances I think one of Scatters' horses won G1' over 5 AND 6f last year?

I have horses this season who don't stay 1m at Ascot but 7f is too sharp at Goodwood. I also have a horse I haven't uploaded who is equally as good over 14 and 16f.

I think what we want to do is stop trainers blatantly abusing the goodwill of the league. I don't think its great that new trainers will have to go via listed races as this will put the horses that do on a mark far too high and therefore redundant for the season. I think some slack could be given to rookie trainers, but an iron fist ruled for the rest of us.

Too time consuming Keith.

They will learn in time.

First season is always difficult.

To be fair there are more maiden options now they are 3+ races.

Yes, the very best horses can win over both. That was a 6f horse competing over 5f, I would be happy to allow this in the current rules as 20% less than it's stamina can still be effective. It's at distances 20% more than it can cope with where the problems arise.

Why dont we have a handicapper for the jumps? and how would one go on and learn how to do this as i have plenty of free time on my hands and wouldn't mind if someone showed me how to do it as i not that technic lol.

Because TOM is basically a nightmare for NHC handicapping...!