We all know that Kingman is going to win the Guineas; Toormore, although I'm looking forward to seeing him on Thursday, isn't in the same class bracket and both Australia and Kingston Hill do not possess the speed to trouble the Gosden charge.

I know the final declaration has not been made yet, but if Australia runs instead of war command and in my personal view war command is the more natural miler, could it be that Aiden O'Brien is too focused on trying to win the triple classic crown (having missed out with camerlot) and perhaps he should be running the specialists Australia being the natural choice for the derby.

As impressive as Kingman was on saturday does anyone else think that he didn't beat much? Also there is a lot of speed in his pedigree and if the guineas turns out to be a stamina test which i very much believe it will, how much will he find at the finish then? Personally i like how bullish aidan is about his horse particularly when questioned about 'john's horse'.

Didn't beat much?? I think you will struggle to find a better test for strength in depth at this stage of the season. Night Of Thunder looks a very good horse and there was plenty of opposition with Group race form/potential (Astaire, Berkshire, Lat Hawill, Supplicant).

Couldn't give a damn about this stage of the season, im talking about at the highest level of racing - group 1's which is what the 2000 guineas is. Those horse's in behind in the greenham were decent 2yo's at best and i'll bet none are up to winning at group level over a mile aged 3+.

Yes, they may end up dissappointing but at this stage, it looks a pretty strong renewal.

Yes, like i say im talking about racing at the very top level.

Speed in pedigree? Pretty much the opposite is true. Plenty of Stamina, particularly on the Dam's side. (Mill Reef, The Minstrel, Northern Dancer, Sir Ivor, Secrettame not exactly lacking stamina there?)

Grimthorpe and Gosden are firm believers that Kingman is a miler through and through. “There’s a lot of speed in pedigree and I think we’re looking at a miler,” he said. (Grimthorpe)
But then you probably know better.. we'll see how his stamina holds up in a couple of weeks

Added to the fact that the time was VERY good, in comparison to the rest of the card. Make no mistake, that was an exceptional performance from, more than likely, an exceptional horse.

You'd expect a fast horse to do a quick time, and we'll see who's making a 'mistake'.

Australia WILL need to be a superstar indeed if Kingman runs to form.

Australia WILL be a superstar regardless of whether kingman runs to form

Can we trust AOB with his admiration for Australia? Camelot, Rip Van Winkle, Starspangled Banner, One Cool Cat, Hawk Wing etc etc etc.... heard it all before.

You can trust that AOB will continue to train horse's of the very highest calibre, such as Camelot, Rip Van Winkle, Starspangledbanner, One Cool Cat, Hawk Wing etc etc etc....

I suspect a minor setback may cause Australia to miss the Guineas? AOB's are rarely 100% for the race and he won't get away wth being 80% this year!!


Hopefully he will run, but I've a suspicion he won't

The know-alls strike again.