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Pricey
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Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:56 am Posts: 904
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Re: Kingman or Toormore
Ubar02 wrote: Best guineas field in years. Can't wait. I agree, Even the Spanish horse at a big price is supposed to have a touch of class as well as a Breeders cup winner at 25/1!
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Sat May 03, 2014 1:33 am |
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Ubar02
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:04 am Posts: 2119
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Re: Kingman or Toormore
Pricey wrote: Ubar02 wrote: Best guineas field in years. Can't wait. I agree, Even the Spanish horse at a big price is supposed to have a touch of class as well as a Breeders cup winner at 25/1! Had had it down as there being 5 big names in the field but had forgotten outstrip. 6 big names- not seen that for a long time. Excited about the Spanish horse, he could genuinely be good, definite e/w if nothing else
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Sat May 03, 2014 7:45 am |
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Ubar02
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:04 am Posts: 2119
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Re: Kingman or Toormore
Make that 7, forgot also about war command
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Sat May 03, 2014 8:55 am |
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Mikey1892
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Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:00 am Posts: 493
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Re: Kingman or Toormore
Thought Kingmans turn of foot at newbury was immense cant see it getting beat. 1st Kingman 2nd Australia 3rd Outstrip
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Sat May 03, 2014 3:42 pm |
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keithbeaky
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:47 pm Posts: 2407 Location: UK
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Re: Kingman or Toormore
All wrong
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Sat May 03, 2014 4:05 pm |
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Mikey1892
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Joined: Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:00 am Posts: 493
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Re: Kingman or Toormore
my first impression was that Kingman didn't stay.
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Sat May 03, 2014 4:51 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15142 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Re: Kingman or Toormore
the only thing i got right today was the Toormore place lay
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Sat May 03, 2014 4:53 pm |
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keithbeaky
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Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:47 pm Posts: 2407 Location: UK
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Re: Kingman or Toormore
pjrhodes1970 wrote: the only thing i got right today was the Toormore place lay Yep braver man than me!
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Sat May 03, 2014 5:01 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15142 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Re: Kingman or Toormore
keithbeaky wrote: pjrhodes1970 wrote: the only thing i got right today was the Toormore place lay Yep braver man than me! Just wasn't taken by the craven form was happy to lay him he could end up winning g1's over a mile but Craven too close to the guineas IMO he did not have much petrol left in tank at end
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Sat May 03, 2014 5:07 pm |
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anubisrich
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Joined: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:53 pm Posts: 2325
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Re: Kingman or Toormore
Kingman idled again up front and that's a killer going uphill at HQ. Wouldn't say he didn't stay, think he'll go to the Irish equivalent and win.
Winner won very nicely under a great ride from Fallon.
Could make an argument for Australia winning had he been in the other group, the split was really quite annoying. Put the stalls on the stands side for gods sake. He quickened up exceptionally well, will certainly win the Derby based on known form. I think AOB will be a little happy he didn't win to ensure the Triple Crown bid is off the table as there is no way such a phenomenally well bred horse should be competing over the Leger trip.
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Sat May 03, 2014 5:19 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15142 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Re: Kingman or Toormore
anubisrich wrote: Kingman idled again up front and that's a killer going uphill at HQ. Wouldn't say he didn't stay, think he'll go to the Irish equivalent and win.
Winner won very nicely under a great ride from Fallon.
Could make an argument for Australia winning had he been in the other group, the split was really quite annoying. Put the stalls on the stands side for gods sake. He quickened up exceptionally well, will certainly win the Derby based on known form. I think AOB will be a little happy he didn't win to ensure the Triple Crown bid is off the table as there is no way such a phenomenally well bred horse should be competing over the Leger trip. You are right those plans will be in the bin now also doubt we will ever see him at a mile again see him being tough to beat over 1m4 and his best trip id imagine will be 10 furlongs plenty for him to go for now eclipse juddmonte etc i think Aidan will be happy enough he was not an unbeaten horse and a place in a g1 classic over a mile looks good on his CV
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Sat May 03, 2014 5:23 pm |
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CE_2014
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Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:42 am Posts: 111
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Re: Kingman or Toormore
Agree that Australia's best trip might be 10 furlongs. As PJ says, All options are open for him. I think he is some horse, I would be shocked if he didn't win the derby. Proved himself today, over a shorter trip than ideal.
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Sat May 03, 2014 5:28 pm |
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keithbeaky
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sun Jun 05, 2011 2:47 pm Posts: 2407 Location: UK
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Re: Kingman or Toormore
Kingman wont go to Ireland for the Guineas. If he does they are idiots.
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Sat May 03, 2014 5:45 pm |
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CE_2014
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Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:42 am Posts: 111
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Re: Kingman or Toormore
The obvious path for them to go down would be St James' Palace, Sussex, QEII
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Sat May 03, 2014 5:50 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
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Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15142 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Sat May 03, 2014 6:25 pm |
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