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Author:  HurricaneRun [ Sat May 03, 2014 7:12 pm ]
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I hate it when they split; agree with rich about moving stalls! Its meant to be one of the best races of the season for gods sake

Author:  Ubar02 [ Sat May 03, 2014 7:21 pm ]
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HurricaneRun wrote:
I hate it when they split; agree with rich about moving stalls! Its meant to be one of the best races of the season for gods sake

Track was also too wide. I don't know why they split, must be because they want a spot on a rail as doubt the ground will have made much difference either way. But if they started on the stands side like they used to until a couple of years ago that would definitely reduce the chance of a split.

Author:  SuperCat [ Sat May 03, 2014 7:47 pm ]
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The quickest ground was in the middle, so we were all baffled as to why they split too. The only explanation was that everyone wanted a bit of the rail. But it ruined the race in my opinion.

Author:  Ubar02 [ Sat May 03, 2014 8:03 pm ]
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All the other races went up the middle, it must have been for the rail. They should have kept the course at normal width and put the stalls on one side or the other. It's weird though some years they split some they don't, so who knows why it is? It does lead to an unsatisfactory race.

Author:  Ubar02 [ Sat May 03, 2014 10:19 pm ]
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Johnny 16dar has been conspicuous in his absence from the post race discussion

Author:  keithbeaky [ Sun May 04, 2014 8:47 am ]
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Ubar02 wrote:
Johnny 16dar has been conspicuous in his absence from the post race discussion


Who cares. It's not been too long so he may show up. But if he doesn't people like him and dichay are no loss and there's many more where they came from.

Author:  anubisrich [ Sun May 04, 2014 9:48 am ]
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CE_2014 wrote:
The obvious path for them to go down would be St James' Palace, Sussex, QEII


With the forecast hot summer I think they will struggle to avoid fast ground going this route.

It's a shame they've ruined Santa Anita by switching back to dirt as he does remind me a lot of Ravens Pass.

Author:  bosra sham [ Sun May 04, 2014 11:31 am ]
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Shame they split but I stand by my assertion that the Greenham was a very strong renewal.
No excuses for Kingman, best horse won on the day, and was well overpriced at 40/1 (staggering horses like Bookrunner and Ertijaal went off at shorter!!)
Australia a worthy short priced fav for Derby now.

Author:  bosra sham [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:36 pm ]
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Yep, Greenham very strong.

Author:  keithbeaky [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:47 pm ]
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Well they went to Ireland, which i wrongly thought was too soon, and have now well and truly shown everyone who is boss over 1m. Another very exciting horse for Juddmonte.

Yes Bosra you were correct about the Greenham. Johnny "no idea" however......

Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:58 pm ]
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You would have to say Toormore has been a huge disappointment was a champion 2yo

Author:  Ubar02 [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:04 pm ]
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pjrhodes1970 wrote:
You would have to say Toormore has been a huge disappointment was a champion 2yo

Same could be said for war command, not shown much either, at least toormore gave weight and a beating to the french derby winner.

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