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Collier49
Selling plater
Joined: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:09 am Posts: 2
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 Newbie Breeding Question
I have read the SO4 Manual - Section 4.1.2 on breeding and would appreciate some further advice from you more experienced breeders. Are there any minimum or maximum age limits for the sire and dam and if so, is there any significant differences of foal potential at either end of these limits.
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Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:01 pm |
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Sabella
Handicapper
Joined: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:10 am Posts: 209 Location: Australia
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Welcome, Collier!
As far as I know there are no min/max age limits for breeding (breeding horses ingame die at varying ages over 14-ish) and I've never noticed any difference in the quality of foal produced by either older or younger parents.
Hope that helps.
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Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:22 pm |
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Dancing Brave
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:24 pm Posts: 1903 Location: Edinburgh
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Providing the horse is getting older in the stud barn rather than on the track, I haven't found age a problem. I do find that the ratings can play some part in breeding so if it is for example a former Group 1 winner with a high of 130, now in the low 100's racing into it's old age, then it's more than likely not going to be as good at producing quality offspring as if it was retired nearer it's glory days. However, it's very rare my horses aimed at stud race past 4 and I only give them 5 years breeding so if your talking about horses 10+ and older it may be different, I wouldn't know.
You can breed with horses at 2 but don't expect great results as there stats and peak levels won't of developed fully in that time.
I find most of the horses in the game quite distance restrictive anyway but one thing I have noticed over the years is if you breed cross-distance, ie a 6f horse with a 10f horse to get a miler, there is a far greater chance the yearling you get will be garbage and tripless, (the bigger the gap between the two breeding distances, the more likely I find this becomes the case) than if you breed say two milers or a 7f horse and a miler.
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Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:30 pm |
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mwesty1
Group 1 winner
Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:52 pm Posts: 2092 Location: WOLVERHAMPTON
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Dancing Brave wrote: You can breed with horses at 2 but don't expect great results as there stats and peak levels won't of developed fully in that time.
I have tryed for a full season to try and breed a 2yo without sucess. Also can l ask do you use horses prefered distance or actually what they do on track, as i had a hombreed who won everything at 7f but said prefers 1m1f so l put it with another 7f group 1 winner of mine who did win few at 6f so was expecting a great 7f horse but came out horse will prefer 1m 1f again???
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:13 am |
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Dancing Brave
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:24 pm Posts: 1903 Location: Edinburgh
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It was with SO2 that I bred with a couple 2yo's, with older horses rather than together, but as I say none of the resulting horses were any good Westy. From what I remember it did take a fair few attempts for the breeding to be successful.
Sometimes the preferred distance of the yearlings can be a bit odd. I've had a 10f horse produced by two milers and I even had in SO2 a mile horse at two which then changed to a 6f horse at 3. Go figure!! I generally pay attention to what they do on the track for distance rather than the preferred distance and I find that the traits of the dam tend to pass on to the yearlings a lot more than that of the sire, include distance limitations.
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Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:41 am |
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Collier49
Selling plater
Joined: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:09 am Posts: 2
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 Newbie Breeding Question
Thank you all for your help........most welcome
Peter
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:11 pm |
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Harris Tweed
Group 1 winner
Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:26 pm Posts: 1487 Location: Manchester, UK
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Dancing Brave wrote: Providing the horse is getting older in the stud barn rather than on the track, I haven't found age a problem. I do find that the ratings can play some part in breeding so if it is for example a former Group 1 winner with a high of 130, now in the low 100's racing into it's old age, then it's more than likely not going to be as good at producing quality offspring as if it was retired nearer it's glory days. However, it's very rare my horses aimed at stud race past 4 and I only give them 5 years breeding so if your talking about horses 10+ and older it may be different, I wouldn't know. You can breed with horses at 2 but don't expect great results as there stats and peak levels won't of developed fully in that time. I find most of the horses in the game quite distance restrictive anyway but one thing I have noticed over the years is if you breed cross-distance, ie a 6f horse with a 10f horse to get a miler, there is a far greater chance the yearling you get will be garbage and tripless, (the bigger the gap between the two breeding distances, the more likely I find this becomes the case) than if you breed say two milers or a 7f horse and a miler.
Very good acurate post.
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Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:25 pm |
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Harris Tweed
Group 1 winner
Joined: Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:26 pm Posts: 1487 Location: Manchester, UK
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mwesty1 wrote: Dancing Brave wrote: You can breed with horses at 2 but don't expect great results as there stats and peak levels won't of developed fully in that time. I have tryed for a full season to try and breed a 2yo without sucess. Also can l ask do you use horses prefered distance or actually what they do on track, as i had a hombreed who won everything at 7f but said prefers 1m1f so l put it with another 7f group 1 winner of mine who did win few at 6f so was expecting a great 7f horse but came out horse will prefer 1m 1f again???
It depends on what horse you want. If you are aiming to breed a specific distance then look at the breeding indicator. I find this works best. Its trial & error.
I can agree with weird distance. I had a horse in the league last year Indian Lights. A top 5f horse. Its breeding indicator was 1m1f lol.
_________________ Can't wait for SO5. The best new feature has to be owners. I asked for this over 4 years ago and finally its here...moist!
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Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:28 pm |
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