On that note.. I wonder if horses have a hidden rating which determines in-game ability next to stats which doesn't apply in CK. Generally do you feel that visible stats translate to CK well?

more likely down to pot luck they just can be very different horses in game to in ck

I think it's the pace of the races. The in game races are always run at a fast pace where CK races are more natural run races. Different type of races men different results. After the first season of the league last year we all got a feel for what type of horses u need to win good races and we all started to trail our races accordingly.

El Gran Senor trialed really well and his son El Tel is my 2nd best miler
& will be part of my league team
when it happens so happy ending

The league is not run at a natural pace. It is run at a farcically slow pace where horses held up have absolutely no chance. Inferior horses, which led, won a lot of Group races they were nowhere near good enough to win.

All my horses are hold up horses. I have had some early pace and ridden handy horses and they haven't been competitive in CK. Stats wise they were actually close but results were wildly inferior. Is League a different animal than CK? Or might it have changed in comparison to SO5? Otherwise I might need to adjust my breeding and work on changing the style of my horses.



If I were to upload one of my milers.. would you be willing to trial it against yours?

yep

I will add in handicaps with large fields you will get a truer pace, though it was still hard for hold up horses to win. Obviously this is related to SO5 and the racekit, if there is one, may and hopefully will be different in SO6. Though you'll do well to have a league this year.

Good to know.. then again I would trust my CK results because there is probably not much else I could do.

Have arrived here now.. should have an upload ready soon. She probably is my best horse as of now.

Sigh...

GhostZapper and KeithBeaky your posts have been deleted. Feel free to re-type your replies without the personal insults.

Its great. Everywhere I go. Keep it up chaps!

You can leave his post. The irony is..... well...... just amazing!

Learn to read

I got the relevant information from it. Essentially regardless of how a league race works I will need to have a broad amount of different horse types for CK to simulate a competitive environment.

I can't comment on the personal feuds that seem to exist but let's focus on my nice filly, shall we?

In the ck you determine the pace of the race by which horses you put into the race. So when you TRIAL(my English is awful) you decide the pace. A lot of people use pacemakers in their trials, therefore horses running off an even pace or held up get a true run race and often do well.

In the SO5 league there were no pacemakers. No one is going to enter a pacemaker into the league as it wont win a race. Also not many make all horses did well in trials so not many were entered into the league. So the pace in the league was significantly slower than when most trainers ran their trials in the ck. This led to a lot of races being run at a very slow pace compared to races in both the ck and in real life racing. Many G1's were run at a speed under 33mph and over 2m+ some races were run at less than 30mph. This is not a "natural pace" and put most hold up horses at a huge disadvantage. They were often out of the screen and many, many lengths behind after 1f. Again this is not normal or natural. They would not try to make up this ground until way too late and therefore have no chance of doing so.


Mark has acknowledged this as a major problem in SO5. As for a league in SO6 you will be waiting a long time.

I don't see u name on the trainers title and yet u know so much.

My advice is just bred the best u can, whatever type of horse is u best. My best horses are hold up horses just like u, I wouldn't worry about it. U breeding looks like it's working to me.