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IiStaples
Selling plater
Joined: Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:47 am Posts: 52
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140 rated first time out
Never seen this before, anyone had the same?
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Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:15 pm |
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NPG319
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am Posts: 2497 Location: South Australia
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Re: 140 rated first time out
At the moment I can only dream about it
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Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:22 am |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15151 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Re: 140 rated first time out
done it a few times too only way you can do it is straight into the deep end in a G1
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Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:22 am |
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NPG319
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am Posts: 2497 Location: South Australia
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Re: 140 rated first time out
pjrhodes1970 wrote: done it a few times too only way you can do it is straight into the deep end in a G1 What's your highest from winning a maiden first up?
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Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:37 am |
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Hechicera
Handicapper
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:57 pm Posts: 482
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Re: 140 rated first time out
pjrhodes1970 wrote: done it a few times too only way you can do it is straight into the deep end in a G1 Was my guess when I saw it. Since I don't see me duplicating this anytime soon , I am curious: Do they often keep that form? Or is that rating more an artifact of that one win with no other data in a race of that class (and presumably also against horses with existing higher ratings)?
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Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:26 pm |
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NPG319
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am Posts: 2497 Location: South Australia
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Re: 140 rated first time out
Hechicera wrote: pjrhodes1970 wrote: done it a few times too only way you can do it is straight into the deep end in a G1 Was my guess when I saw it. Since I don't see me duplicating this anytime soon , I am curious: Do they often keep that form? Or is that rating more an artifact of that one win with no other data in a race of that class (and presumably also against horses with existing higher ratings)? I think so.
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Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:13 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15151 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Re: 140 rated first time out
NPG319 wrote: pjrhodes1970 wrote: done it a few times too only way you can do it is straight into the deep end in a G1 What's your highest from winning a maiden first up? I think 134 is my best
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Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:19 am |
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NPG319
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am Posts: 2497 Location: South Australia
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Re: 140 rated first time out
pjrhodes1970 wrote: NPG319 wrote: pjrhodes1970 wrote: done it a few times too only way you can do it is straight into the deep end in a G1 What's your highest from winning a maiden first up? I think 134 is my best If you can remember - How did it turn out? Did it live up to it's rating?
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Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:24 am |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15151 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Re: 140 rated first time out
when they get a 140 rating on debut it always goes down to mid 130s with more races even if they win I honestly cant remember how the 134 turned out just 1 of abut 20,000+ horses i have trained
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Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:26 am |
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NPG319
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am Posts: 2497 Location: South Australia
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Re: 140 rated first time out
pjrhodes1970 wrote: when they get a 140 rating on debut it always goes down to mid 130s with more races even if they win I honestly cant remember how the 134 turned out just 1 of abut 20,000+ horses i have trained Yep - I know you've got a healthy breeding programme So I am not surprised you can't remember
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Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:17 am |
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IiStaples
Selling plater
Joined: Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:47 am Posts: 52
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Re: 140 rated first time out
pjrhodes1970 wrote: when they get a 140 rating on debut it always goes down to mid 130s with more races even if they win I honestly cant remember how the 134 turned out just 1 of abut 20,000+ horses i have trained Surprisingly managed to hold 140 for the three year old season
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Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:41 am |
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NPG319
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am Posts: 2497 Location: South Australia
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Re: 140 rated first time out
Another beast!
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Sun Sep 18, 2016 12:53 pm |
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Hechicera
Handicapper
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:57 pm Posts: 482
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Re: 140 rated first time out
So, it did keep it's form. Wow.
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Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:41 pm |
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IiStaples
Selling plater
Joined: Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:47 am Posts: 52
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Re: 140 rated first time out
Hechicera wrote: So, it did keep it's form. Wow. I wouldn't say she always ran to 140 but as she kept winning it just didn't drop. 2nd highest rated in Eclipse was 119 and she won half a length
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Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:18 pm |
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ChrisOrmie
Handicapper
Joined: Fri May 08, 2015 10:22 pm Posts: 210 Location: Texas, USA (on loan from Wales, UK)
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Re: 140 rated first time out
IiStaples wrote: pjrhodes1970 wrote: when they get a 140 rating on debut it always goes down to mid 130s with more races even if they win I honestly cant remember how the 134 turned out just 1 of abut 20,000+ horses i have trained Surprisingly managed to hold 140 for the three year old season Wow. I have no other words.
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Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:44 pm |
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