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Nasty Nas8
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Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:22 pm Posts: 333 Location: North London
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
This is exactly my point. Why do we need US Army Ranger to be standing at stud? Isn't there enough Galileo blood out there as it is?
I am a big advocate of seeing less stallions at stud (I've even spoken to Nancy Sexton (Racing Post) in depth about this subject). There are too many moderate horses and mares being bred which results in moderate racehorses. There is not enough room to accommodate all of them which can result in the abandonment and slaughter of some.
I was dismayed when hearing Morpheus and Proconsul, both sons of Kind, where to stand at stud in the UK. Why? What is the point? Neither had any great success on the racetrack so the likelihood is their offspring won't be overly talented; I wonder where they will end up when the owner has had enough?
The stallion business is all about making money, which is why people are desperate to stand a Galileo, but for once I wish people would put the welfare of these beautiful animals first. I know I'm in a minority, but that is my opinion.
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Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:22 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15174 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
Nasty Nas8 wrote: This is exactly my point. Why do we need US Army Ranger to be standing at stud? Isn't there enough Galileo blood out there as it is?
I am a big advocate of seeing less stallions at stud (I've even spoken to Nancy Sexton (Racing Post) in depth about this subject). There are too many moderate horses and mares being bred which results in moderate racehorses. There is not enough room to accommodate all of them which can result in the abandonment and slaughter of some.
I was dismayed when hearing Morpheus and Proconsul, both sons of Kind, where to stand at stud in the UK. Why? What is the point? Neither had any great success on the racetrack so the likelihood is their offspring won't be overly talented; I wonder where they will end up when the owner has had enough?
The stallion business is all about making money, which is why people are desperate to stand a Galileo, but for once I wish people would put the welfare of these beautiful animals first. I know I'm in a minority, but that is my opinion. Nancy is a lady good few chats with her especially during Goffs and Tatts we had a bit of craic last week The concern is when sires just disappear off the planet I know while over here they are treated like royalty you can only hope its the same when they move. I cant abide by animal cruelty really upsets me i try to avoid reading about it some will say im soft but really does effect me greatly.
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Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:42 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15174 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
Rekindling (Near) US Army Ranger (Far) stretch their legs at the Werribee International Horse Facility
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Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:27 am |
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NPG319
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am Posts: 2497 Location: South Australia
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
Sir Isaac Newton has been scratched from the Cup.
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Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:28 am |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15174 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
I Hope is ok after been sent off like a 5 furlong sprinter in a 10 furlong race hope this has not damaged him
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Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:30 am |
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Degaussed
Handicapper
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:44 pm Posts: 145
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
Rekindling is your winner.
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Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:48 pm |
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NPG319
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am Posts: 2497 Location: South Australia
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
Here is the latest order of entry for the Melb Cup. US Army Ranger looks a certain starter at this stage! https://www.justhorseracing.com.au/melb ... r-of-entry
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Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:29 pm |
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NPG319
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am Posts: 2497 Location: South Australia
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
Degaussed wrote: Rekindling is your winner. Carrying 51.5kg - if it is any good, it must be well under in the weights. Your tip has been noted and filed away
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Wed Oct 25, 2017 11:32 pm |
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Pommard
Group 2 winner
Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:58 pm Posts: 779
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
NPG319 wrote: Degaussed wrote: Rekindling is your winner. Carrying 51.5kg - if it is any good, it must be well under in the weights. Your tip has been noted and filed away He's a decent animal but I don't think the race is suitable for a european 3yo. I think it's probably a year too soon for him.
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:42 am |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15174 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
Rekindling is a rock solid horse has beaten some good horses here over this season including multiple g1 winner CAPRI also beat Wicklow Brave and followed home Order of St George in the Irish Leger trail a solid 4th in the English Leger his European form is rock solid.
id say he is the type that could do well in the race.
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:49 am |
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NPG319
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am Posts: 2497 Location: South Australia
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
As I believe I have mentioned before - not many 3yo's run in the race but the classy ones that do, do run well. I'm not as clued into north/south ages - what I do know is all Australian horses have a birthday on August 1.....hence the reason why not many Aussie 3yo's run (in the Cup) but if your Northern horses are forward in age then don't write off Rekindling - this could be an astute move by the owners/trainer to get a classy young stayer into a $6 million race carrying sweet FA! If they pull this off - this could expose the Achilles Heel of the Melbourne Cup for European horses.
And don't be surprised it gets sold to Lloyd Williams if it wins or finishes close up.
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:45 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15174 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
NPG319 wrote: As I believe I have mentioned before - not many 3yo's run in the race but the classy ones that do, do run well. I'm not as clued into north/south ages - what I do know is all Australian horses have a birthday on August 1.....hence the reason why not many Aussie 3yo's run (in the Cup) but if your Northern horses are forward in age then don't write off Rekindling - this could be an astute move by the owners/trainer to get a classy young stayer into a $6 million race carrying sweet FA! If they pull this off - this could expose the Achilles Heel of the Melbourne Cup for European horses.
And don't be surprised it gets sold to Lloyd Williams if it wins or finishes close up. too Late Lloyd already owns him
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Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:02 pm |
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NPG319
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am Posts: 2497 Location: South Australia
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
pjrhodes1970 wrote: NPG319 wrote: As I believe I have mentioned before - not many 3yo's run in the race but the classy ones that do, do run well. I'm not as clued into north/south ages - what I do know is all Australian horses have a birthday on August 1.....hence the reason why not many Aussie 3yo's run (in the Cup) but if your Northern horses are forward in age then don't write off Rekindling - this could be an astute move by the owners/trainer to get a classy young stayer into a $6 million race carrying sweet FA! If they pull this off - this could expose the Achilles Heel of the Melbourne Cup for European horses.
And don't be surprised it gets sold to Lloyd Williams if it wins or finishes close up. too Late Lloyd already owns him LOL Well that is of no surprised - highlights even more the horse's chances of winning the Cup Lloyd is obsessed with winning the Cup!
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:03 am |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15174 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
US Army Ranger and Rekindling having a light canter at Werribee (Ranger leading)
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Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:15 am |
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NPG319
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am Posts: 2497 Location: South Australia
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Re: Melbourne Cup Entries - first round
Likely field for the Cup which will be run next Tuesday. https://www.justhorseracing.com.au/fiel ... 017/412551
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Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:58 am |
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