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Taunton
Group 3 winner
Joined: Tue May 19, 2015 4:20 pm Posts: 524 Location: Norway
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UK Triple Crown
I was wondering if any of you have som advice regarding this. It is my holy grail now and I have not achieved it. I know in todays real world racing there is very rarely any trainers attempting this for their horses, because of the varying distances.
I have had horses that have won the Derby and St Leger, but are too slow for the Guineas.
Do you use any special tactics to get your Leger horse through the Guineas, or do I just have to wait for the monster that blow everyone away regardless of speed, stamina and distance?
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Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:59 pm |
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Wannabe
Group 2 winner
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:22 pm Posts: 739 Location: Fife, Scotland
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Re: UK Triple Crown
I don't try this very often anymore, but when I did try, it was usually a 1m 2f or a 1m 4f horse that won the triple crown.
When I run a 1m 4f horse in the guineas, I would give it special instructions, usually to go early.
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Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:45 pm |
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Degaussed
Handicapper
Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:44 pm Posts: 145
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Re: UK Triple Crown
I don't even know how you'd begin to try this. I had a horse with a full Speed bar who looked to have all the correct stats for the Guineas end up being a distance and was stunningly outpaced.
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Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:38 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15151 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Re: UK Triple Crown
Bars make no difference really you obviously need a decent horse you dont need full speed done it loads of times with horses with different levels of ability and bars
what you need is a 1m4 horse
in the guineas give instructions even pace challenge early in derby even pace in leger hold up dont trail challenge later
in the leger they usually come into the race on the bridal and go for home with those instructions they usually make it home the guineas is the tough one usually finish like a train but sometimes dont pick up the winner its funny failed misrably when using race handy challenge early or force the pace which you think would be perfect instructions for a stayer in the guineas but does not work well have had success in the guineas with hold up challenge early too and they just get up like Camelot
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Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:40 pm |
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Breeding Empire
Selling plater
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:49 am Posts: 7
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Re: UK Triple Crown
The way i did it was by using a stayer with a speed horse, Say a 1m7f and a 5f horse, They usually end up being a 1m3f horse which isn't a bad as it sounds because they normally scrape home in the leger, The horse i did it with was called Dawn Of A Dynasty and i think it's hard to find a better name for a U.K triple crown winner, Weirdly he went on the win an ascot gold cup and an Arc
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Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:34 am |
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davespunts
Selling plater
Joined: Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:01 pm Posts: 1
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Re: UK Triple Crown
Degaussed wrote: I don't even know how you'd begin to try this. I had a horse with a full Speed bar who looked to have all the correct stats for the Guineas end up being a distance and was stunningly outpaced. It's not the easiest as I have just completed it after years of trying with my own bred horse called Design Reel..this is a 1m5f horse that has both speed and stamina and group 1 class in it's blood including a St Leger winner..looking back through the breeding lines, there's Derby, St Leger and Guineas winners amongst them so I am assuming that a good line through this lot has finally delivered...I do have a video of the Design Reel winning the Triple Crown but not sure if allowed to post..
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Tue Jan 02, 2018 6:18 pm |
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chambers2289
Selling plater
Joined: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:40 am Posts: 12
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Re: UK Triple Crown
First time I’ve ever managed to do it was with this one, I didn’t think stats wise he would have a chance, he won the Guineas by over 2 lengths on a “dont trail, challenge earlier” instruction, the Derby by 3 1/2 lengths with no instruction and the St Leger by 2 lengths on a “hold up, challenge later” instruction.
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Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:28 pm |
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pjrhodes1970
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm Posts: 15151 Location: Republic of Ireland
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Re: UK Triple Crown
great stuff mate
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Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:08 pm |
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