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			| pjrhodes1970 Group 1 winner 
					Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 8:48 pm
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 Location: Republic of Ireland
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden StatsOpen bars for me the other way will make trialing a nightmare 
 
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			| admin_ Site Admin 
					Joined: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:15 pm
 Posts: 2247
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden StatsOne possibility if opinion is split when the game mode arrives is to introduce hidden stats first via a patch. Players can then try this mode out and see how they feel. If required stats can then be reintroduced. Doing it the other way around would not work so well.
 PS. As there are HDB changes in the latest patch it might be an idea to manualy backup your HDB file if you have lot's of exports.
 
 
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			| simpleminds Group 1 winner 
					Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:56 pm
 Posts: 5757
 Location: uk
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden Stats20 people have Voted but only 17 have openly left a message only these votes count so if you have voted and not left a message then your vote will be discounted so you need to leave a message and say which way you voted this is a Open Vote which League Players are deciding the future of the league please leave a message.
 So at this post below is the counted votes so far
 
 Counted 13
 
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 Open - 10
 Hidden - 7
 
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			| NPG319 Group 1 winner 
					Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am
 Posts: 2498
 Location: South Australia
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden StatsHidden 
 
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			| Yasmin Stott Handicapper 
					Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:45 am
 Posts: 295
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden StatsOpen 
 
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			| gmoore23 Handicapper 
					Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:46 pm
 Posts: 111
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden StatsHidden - The only open bars should be fitness and conditioning. 
 
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			| ikem007 Handicapper 
					Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:17 pm
 Posts: 150
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden StatsOpen. Though would maybe be good if they were not so absolute. Instead of 0-100 they were v poor, poor, average, good, excellent....or something. That way you'd never know you had a beast but would be sure it was good enough. 
 
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			| simpleminds Group 1 winner 
					Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:56 pm
 Posts: 5757
 Location: uk
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden Stats20 people have Voted but only 17 have openly left a message only these votes count so if you have voted and not left a message then your vote will be discounted so you need to leave a message and say which way you voted this is a Open Vote which League Players are deciding the future of the league please leave a message.
 So at this post below is the counted votes so far
 
 Counted 13
 
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 Open - 10
 Hidden - 10
 
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 _________________simple in mind but wonderful in young lifehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNzbn9 ... idx5pNkHaQ 
 
 
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			| Pommard Group 2 winner 
					Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:58 pm
 Posts: 779
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden StatsHidden 
 
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			| NPG319 Group 1 winner 
					Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:39 am
 Posts: 2498
 Location: South Australia
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden StatsMark wrote: One possibility if opinion is split when the game mode arrives is to introduce hidden stats first via a patch. Players can then try this mode out and see how they feel. If required stats can then be reintroduced. Doing it the other way around would not work so well.
 PS. As there are HDB changes in the latest patch it might be an idea to manualy backup your HDB file if you have lot's of exports.
I have thought about this as well. My concern was locking into something that we are then stuck with for four or more years. It's good to know that if we do end up hiding bar/s and for whatever reason it doesn't work out then it is a simple fix to open them back up which wouldn't create a need to start from zero again.
 
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			| Taunton Group 3 winner 
					Joined: Tue May 19, 2015 4:20 pm
 Posts: 524
 Location: Norway
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden StatsIs the league mode now implemented with the latest patch, or will it be implemented after this poll?
 I am not at home atm so haven't checked the game.
 
 
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			| Lordedaw Group 2 winner 
					Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:29 am
 Posts: 824
 Location: Warwickshire
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden StatsI have voted for hidden as I think it will make the game more realistic and also prevent the top trainers from getting to far ahead. 
 With hidden bars you will have to play the game and discover your horses ability rather than just apply the factory farming method that some people use.
 
 In reality no breeder breeds 300 horses at every distance and then picks the best 3 to send racing as some league trainers do.
 
 Coupled with the removal of the immortality offered by the ttf this should make for a much more competitive league.
 
 Another thing I have an issue with is people playing shortened seasons. This obviously gives those players an advantage as their horses progress quicker.
 
 To equalise this I was wondering if it is possible to put a date cap on the  league mode. Something like making the game end after 100 seasons or saying that league horses can only be from the first 50 years for he 1st league 100 for the 2nd etc. That way no one would get too far ahead.
 
 That may seem drastic but in the last 2 league seasons I have finished around the top of the second tier. I played my games straight with a full schedule and in my flat game I only got through 60 seasons. In the jump one about 75. All of the players above me were into the several hundreds season wise so there was no way I was ever going to catch them. The same will happen in SO7
 
 
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			| Taunton Group 3 winner 
					Joined: Tue May 19, 2015 4:20 pm
 Posts: 524
 Location: Norway
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden StatsQuote: Another thing I have an issue with is people playing shortened seasons. This obviously gives those players an advantage as their horses progress quicker.Yes, I have been thinking about this too, and the possibility to crash the game to get a different crop of yearlings. I guess that there will always be ways around in a computer game, but a much more levelled way of breeding for the league will probably give everyone a chance once in a while to stumble across a great horse that can compete for greatness.
 
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			| dragontrainer Group 3 winner 
					Joined: Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:50 am
 Posts: 541
 Location: W. Yorkshire
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden StatsHidden. 
 
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			| simpleminds Group 1 winner 
					Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:56 pm
 Posts: 5757
 Location: uk
   |   Re: League Poll 1 Open or Hidden Stats23 people have Voted but only 20 have openly left a message only these votes count so if you have voted and not left a message then your vote will be discounted so you need to leave a message and say which way you voted this is a Open Vote which League Players are deciding the future of the league please leave a message.
 So at this post below is the counted votes so far
 
 Counted 20 Votes
 
 Open - 10
 Hidden - 10
 
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 _________________simple in mind but wonderful in young lifehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNzbn9 ... idx5pNkHaQ 
 
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