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kniesh
Group 2 winner
Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:33 pm Posts: 870 Location: Nantwich
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 Re: Volunteers For Next Season
I think getting people to handicap after Mondays races, then one for Tuesday, then one for Wednesday may be easier. saves looking for horses as you tend to do it races by race when adjusting the marks anyway
_________________ Vinny
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Anadin
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:20 am Posts: 1063 Location: Spain
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 Re: Volunteers For Next Season
Its a difficult one for sure, although capping by day maybe easier than capping by age and distance.
So 10 races a day fields of 15, that's 150 horses per day to cap, but if we have 20+ flat trainers we are up to 200 per day and that's only with a single entry.
I think, if we want to get a season underway then harsh decisions need to be made.
It must be better to have 5-10 horses run every day than none at all and being the capping is the major sticking point, we need to alleviate as much as possible so that we get some volunteers.
We have got a bit spoilt with 40+ flat races a week, double entries & large stables.
We can always return to full schedule, max runners, stables etc. in the future.
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Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:04 pm |
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Dhughes
Handicapper
Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:35 pm Posts: 219
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 Re: Volunteers For Next Season
What exactly is involved in the handicapping? is dropbox required? paid or free version? do they watch the races early?
Sounds like best option could be to let the game do it, with manual adjustments from Vinny & Gray.
Or to spread it out, you could run the full flat league first and then the jumps league after. or run them both together but have a two week break in between gameweeks
Reading between the lines, Leon is the only person who can add or remove races and it says he is unable to at the moment.
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Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:54 pm |
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Munas23
Selling plater
Joined: Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:24 pm Posts: 90
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 Re: Volunteers For Next Season
If handicapping is easy to teach im happy to give it a go. Apart from knowing the idea behind it etc, i wouldnt know where to start, so would need help/instructions
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Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:20 pm |
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kniesh
Group 2 winner
Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:33 pm Posts: 870 Location: Nantwich
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 Re: Volunteers For Next Season
The handicapping just involves going through each race and adjusting the mark in TOM. At the same time Alex/Gray would have sent you the races in a zip file, and you adjust them in a Construction Kit slightly different to the CK in your game. There's nothing special to it. You then send the adjusted files back to Alex/Gray.
It's not a difficult process, you pick out a horse in the race with a solid handicap that has ran to it, an adjust the others around it based on their performance. It's more time consuming than difficult when you have to do it each night
_________________ Vinny
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Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:34 pm |
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cherzo2015
Handicapper
Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:22 am Posts: 206 Location: Scotland
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 Re: Volunteers For Next Season
would prefer not to have game handicapping then adjusting the foreign races, that is a non starter and would cause more problems.
It does requires dropbox as you get the files from there, update them then upload them and overwrite the old ones.
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Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:55 am |
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kniesh
Group 2 winner
Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:33 pm Posts: 870 Location: Nantwich
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 Re: Volunteers For Next Season
I done it for that season with Gray just e-mailing me the races, I loaded them to the Race kit, and adjusted them in there to match TOM, there's no need for Dropbox to handicap
_________________ Vinny
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Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:04 am |
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dragontrainer
Group 3 winner
Joined: Sat Jul 25, 2009 1:50 am Posts: 533 Location: W. Yorkshire
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 Re: Volunteers For Next Season
Just throwing it in here but why not race every other week so the handicapper/s can do their job and also entries could then maybe open earlier, might even give race runners and commentators more time. I know this turns the normally quarterly season into half a year season but at least it would be easier on all.
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Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:53 am |
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Lordedaw
Group 2 winner
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:29 am Posts: 794 Location: Warwickshire
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 Re: Volunteers For Next Season
dragontrainer wrote: Just throwing it in here but why not race every other week so the handicapper/s can do their job and also entries could then maybe open earlier, might even give race runners and commentators more time. I know this turns the normally quarterly season into half a year season but at least it would be easier on all. That a pretty good idea. Another way would be to alternate flat and nh so there were only half as many races to do each week. This would still mean the season lasted 26 weeks instead of 13 but there would be something to watch every week.
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Fri Aug 04, 2023 1:29 pm |
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Mattcooper
Selling plater
Joined: Sat Nov 12, 2022 9:59 pm Posts: 48
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 Re: Volunteers For Next Season
Alternative weeks would be interesting.
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Fri Aug 04, 2023 5:36 pm |
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simpleminds
Group 1 winner
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:56 pm Posts: 5742 Location: uk
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26 weeks ? lol i will Pass I do play other games and like to take a break.
Gray
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Fri Aug 04, 2023 6:59 pm |
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Anadin
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:20 am Posts: 1063 Location: Spain
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simpleminds wrote: 26 weeks ? lol i will Pass I do play other games and like to take a break.
Gray Yeah 6 months is a tad too long to commit too, as Gray says, some of us have a life 
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Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:45 am |
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delmonty1964
Group 3 winner
Joined: Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:49 am Posts: 654 Location: torquay . devon
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just a silly idea but what about getting rid of a few handicap races and have more maiden races ? less for anyone doing handicap races handicap produces a lot of runners so un- top trainers have chances of getting a win or places maybe a poor idea
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Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:03 pm |
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Anadin
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:20 am Posts: 1063 Location: Spain
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 Re: Volunteers For Next Season
delmonty1964 wrote: just a silly idea but what about getting rid of a few handicap races and have more maiden races ? less for anyone doing handicap races handicap produces a lot of runners so un- top trainers have chances of getting a win or places maybe a poor idea Not overly silly Del  We are trying to slim the schedule down as discussed at the back end of last season, but losing even more handicaps where the majority of trainers ply their trade is not going to be the answer, they would still need a mark. The ideas above are not without merit in trying to alleviate the issue, but extending a season to 26 weeks is probably not practical for most, maybe cut stable sizes ? Which would go in hand with the tightening of the schedule, less horses, less work! Of course not ideal, but we have got to the position where if nothing gets decided or a willing flat handicap volunteer steps forward, we will be trail running until SO8..... Doh!
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Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:01 am |
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Dhughes
Handicapper
Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:35 pm Posts: 219
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 Re: Volunteers For Next Season
With the talk of SO8, is it safe to assume that the next league will be the last of SO7?
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Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:02 am |
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