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				 craigibhoy 
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				  Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						Just wondered as anyone manage to get a group win in the owner mode as i can hardly even get a winner ha. 
					
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				 Weeble 
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					 Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:34 am Posts: 616
				 
				 
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				  Re: Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						I've won two Grade two hurdles with a horse in owner mode, one a novice race and one the following season. 
					
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				 niallmcfc 
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					 Joined: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:47 pm Posts: 129
				 
				 
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				  Re: Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						Ive won a couple of group 2s on my last owner game but despite holding an open day at every opportunity i didnt manage to get anymore and eventually ran out of money. The group 2s were bad though, both french and didnt have to face anything decent.
  Its a really good idea but it needs tweaking massively. Maybe start with more horses and should get at least a few 2yo every season. 
					
  
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				 Bill Seiko 
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					 Joined: Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:42 am Posts: 327
				 
				 
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				  Re: Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						I won Grand  National  and  another  National a  couple of  weeks later,  was  top money  trainer  with only  2  horses,  open  day  every  month or  so  but  still only  got  2  horses. I  had  3  but  after  getting  a novice  from  84  to  120 the owner  took it  away  and  gave it  to  trainer  with  2  winners  from  24  horses. This needs fixing  but  Mark  must  never  read  these  AI  owner threads.
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				 daveyboy 
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					 Joined: Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:42 pm Posts: 232
				 
				 
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				  Re: Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						Won the Melbourne Cup witha hprse I got given and had the 5th a few G3's as well but only in 5 season and have 46 horses atm. It's a slow play to be honest if you want to get it right, 
					
  
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				 frankelnorthend 
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					 Joined: Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:30 pm Posts: 149 Location: preston
				 
				 
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				  Re: Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						i make sure i run most of my horses on the open day itself get loads of offers from trainers, especially if one wins or runs well. 
					
  
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				 SuperCat 
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					 Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:19 am Posts: 2055
				 
				 
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				  Re: Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						I have won about 6 G1's and a few other group and listed races. The key is to take it very SLOWLY, no skipping days. Plan entries meticulously and correctly and always make sure you have at least one runner who will win or place high on the day and day before your open day.
  There is no quick fix but it is possible to do well. You cannot rush through seasons on this mode! 
					
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				 Bill Seiko 
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				  Re: Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						I don't  rush , furthest I  got  so  far  is start of  season 3 in AI owner mode. got over  60 horses in one game  but  about  40  are  level 30-40  which makes  them  useless on  the flat  and  some  are  11 or  12  years old. No chance of  winning  Group races  or listed  races  with  the ones I  got and  if I  do improve  a  horse  I lose it to  another  trainer. Not much point  in playing  at  the moment.
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				 seat183 
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					 Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:35 am Posts: 6
				 
				 
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				  Re: Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						So hard to do well for me.
  It does need tweaking thats for sure, but the concept it very very good.
  It will get there in the end. Thing is you can start the season with a grumpy owner and horses that are 8/9 with a rating of around 35.
  It's impossible to do anything with em. Great cocnept, not quite there yet. Possibly including a few 2yo in there to spice things up. 
					
  
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				 Bill Seiko 
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				  Re: Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						A couple of  questions please. What  happens if  you  retire  owners horses  at  end of season? And  do  owners  retire  their  group  winners  to  stud which  we  would obviously  do? It  would be  great  if  they would  retire  them  to our  breeding  barn. Got  a  decent  yard of horses  apart  from  so  real old level 30 ish  ones  which I  want  rid of.
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				 G.P.KONTIS 
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					 Joined: Sat May 05, 2012 4:27 pm Posts: 4
				 
				 
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				  Re: Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						Just won trainner championship in Owner mode for the third time. I play normal difficulty, Uk flat. Prize money was more than 18 million. Won 12 group 1 races and placed with many horses. I had 1-2 in Arc and Japan Cup, won Epsom Derby and some races in Dubai World Cup and Breeders Cup cards. As i understand the main problem most of you have is that in open days there is no interest from owners or they offer you  rubbish. Answer to all of that i gave, in earlier posts. I had the same problem when i started Owner mode. I belive this part of the game, Owner mode, is the future, but needs work to be done. Lot of things do happen only by luck and not because of your actions. Unfortunatly the best way to have horses and try to prove you are the best is to save and quit the game when there is an opene day. Then you load again and skip day, if there is offers you like you go on, if not quit without saving and load again until there is something you like. After some months you will have enough horses to train. To win group races you will need not only horses but to understand how to train them. I suggest that in the end of the year, you retire all those that have less than 90 rating, exept 2years old. You will manage a smaller but quality stable.  Last season i had only 55 horses.  What i never had is a 2 year old at the start of a season. This is something that needs fixing. 
					
  
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				 SuperCat 
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					 Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 10:19 am Posts: 2055
				 
				 
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				  Re: Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						Bill Seiko wrote: A couple of  questions please. What  happens if  you  retire  owners horses  at  end of season? And  do  owners  retire  their  group  winners  to  stud which  we  would obviously  do? It  would be  great  if  they would  retire  them  to our  breeding  barn. Got  a  decent  yard of horses  apart  from  so  real old level 30 ish  ones  which I  want  rid of.
  Bill If you retire owners horses at the end of the season the horse leaves and the relationship with the owner doesn't seem to change. There is no stud so I assume that they would keep racing until the owner takes them away or you retire them yourself. I too would like to have a breeding barn, or for the owners to send their horses to stud (telling you of course) and for you to get first refusal on the offspring. This way we would get new 2yo's every year after a few seasons. Just retire from game the ones you don't want. Owners don't even seem to mind if you don't run them for a season if you retire them from the game.  
					
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				 Bill Seiko 
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				  Re: Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						Wow, retired 8  horses  at  end of  season and got  6  2yo's all  by  group 1or 2  winners. And  big  surprise  at  start  of  season a   regular owner  sent me  a  new  3yo 2 miler, I  wonder if owners put  them out  to grass as  well. Following  advice  in  forum I  now  have  80  horses and  have  won 4 group  1 races, finally  getting  offered  better  horses.
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				 SuperCat 
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				  Re: Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						We told you Bill!!!        It isn't perfect but it is possible. Did an owner offer you the 2yo's or did they automatically arrive in your stable at the beginning of the season??  
					
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				 Bill Seiko 
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				  Re: Group win in owner mode ?  
					
						They arrived in  new  horses  screen  at  start of  season which surprised me, but not  as  much  as  owner sending  that  3yo. Just glad  of  all  the  advice  in forum.
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