Just my 2p worth and i could be way off the mark, but it seems to me that Rivers and Tomas seem to be the same person. (JC Night anyone? ).

The banning of multiple accounts should be enforced.

You are right I am a duplicate. I am in fact Rich!
Seriously though you are way off the mark mate.
Two people can share the same opinions especially when they are the right opinions.

JC Night has his own style. I don't think anyone could possibly duplicate his character.

But I will have a go for you.

"Now you Jackass don't being throwing your virtual candy floss at my stall. I am likely to put a little bit more treacle on your toffee apple and that would make you very ill indeed"

JC Night

Rivers you are a legend m8, the patter is phenomenal at times.

Youve been accused of being me in a new account because i had a 50 point loss with this one, youve been accused of being JC Night and probably a few more I dont know about.

I always have a chuckle at your posts so keep it up.

I want to get into the league aswell just to take on Luke Wilsons beasts, but its going to be hard seen as he sleeps for 3 hours a day and plays for 21.

Just to confirm Rivers mate, 1. If you had a horse thats best at 5f and you put it at 6f pref distance then straight away thats not in the spirit of the league and you are already having a negative attitude to the league by trying to fiddle before the horse has even run. (Not aimed at you just in general if this happens) 2. If a horse runs 3 times at 7f then gets dropped to 5f this would of been looked into, what we was looking at last year was if you ran in a maiden at 7f the next race would have to be either 6f or 8f. With a new system l think if you run 3 times at 7f the horse would only be allowed to race at 6f in a hcap, an example below:-

THE BEAST PREF DIST-6F

7F MAIDEN
7F MAIDEN
7F MAIDEN
6F HCAP
5F HCAP

This is the way l think the system should work that you cant have a 2f drop at up to a mile and over a mile you cant drop more than 2f.Just an idea to be implemented to stop this. But running the horse in 2 7f madiens and then a 6f maiden would qualify the horse to run a 5f hcap 4th race. If by someway a horse slips throught the net then if the horse wins the race or not they get hit with a 5lb penalty

So the rule is/should be: A horse racing at 1m or under can only change 1f up or down from it's previous run. So a horse can run at 6f, 6f, 5f but not 6f, 6f, 8f. But it could go 6f, 7f, 8f and still not be caught out? Any horse running over 8f can go up or down by a total of 2f.

So to use Rivers example if I had a 5f horse which I wanted to give a good chance in a decent handicap I could run it in 2x 7f maidens, 1x6f maiden (which it may win/be placed in) then put it in a 5f handicap. The horse may still be ahead of the handicapper but it probably would have gone up from running over a more suitable distance in the 6f race.

Or if I had a miler which I wanted to do the same with I could run it at 6f, 6f, 7f and then in the Royal Hunt Cup (for example) it should, in theory, have a low enough mark to run well above it's merits.

What about an Ebor type? Could I run it at 10f, 11f, 12f, then in the Ebor over 14f which it should be much better suited to so it should run well above it's form? Or even run it at 16f+ with it's last run at 16f before it drops down to 14f for the Ebor??

Or am I wrong? I wasn't really interested before but it's got me intrigued now!

JC Night jackdow, happens to be my dad, yes he is banned for life does that mean that I have no rights to play the game nor the rights to comment on how the league should run, we as a family have invested in this game since the early 2000's and in the game before this called stable masters like most of you all did, it is a game that we as a family play together and rather enjoy, I am not going to go into what or why my dad was banned or even try to defend him on here, I am sure that he is capable of doing that himself, but hey the funniest thing is that I am trying to prove him wrong about you people yet I find it hard to do so, this is a good game that is built by a wizz of an author that has been on going for nearly a decade, it shows that the game is strong but the followers are not, if anything is going to end the great run of this great game it's going to be the politics between the players on here, I got angry because of a lot of game play I have like most of you and you look foreward to something that doesn't happen all because of the negative politics on here, for me, I don't really care who the president is all I care about is having my horses run in the league against your horses and may the best horse win at the end of the race, hopefully I don't get judged like my dad did, but if I do well that will be your loss not mine,
I will introduce myself to you all, my name is Tomas Night and proud of my name, I hope we can get on.

What you are saying above rich that you will prioritise the opinions and feelings of those who have volunteered for the league, does that mean that I and some of us in here that play the game yet do not have the time to volunteer nor if they put their hand up to volunteer would have no chance of getting a position as a staff member lets say, the likes of me being a Night or someone like steve & co. according to you rich would have no voice or no say in how the league shoud run?

Ive never been in the League before so I dont really know what the problem was but I take it was ppl running horses over the wrong distance to get handicap marks? Suppose its in keeping with real racing.

Just to throw a spanner in the works, if horses can only go up or down 2 furlongs, does that mean that no horse could win the Guineas and the Derby? Or does it just apply to handicaps?

The thing with handicaps is, horses have very tight stamina margins, when you upload a horse you know pretty accurately it's best distance.

If you race a horse in the league over 1m 3 times to get a handicap mark and then enter it in a 1m2f race I'm going to ask why. If you tell me, it's really a 9f horse and I want to see if I can nick a win over longer and there have been no opportunities to run over 9f before I'm probably going to agree with you. If it absolutely hoses up then I've got your number and may decide in the future not to allow it. I won't be as accomodating if you are dropping a horse down in trip.

However, if all I have to worry about is someone trying to get a cheeky win in a minor handicap then I'll be very pleased. It's practically a non issue in my opinion, if a horse is good enough to win that race then no-one is going to bother wasting 3 races just to win one.

edit: New Approach, you are free to run your horses in any race you like, the only issue arises is if you then try and enter that horse in a handicap. It is like real life but, in the context of the game, it's obviously bending the rules.

and also, in the league of starters orders, no horse will win the guineas and then the derby!!FACT!!its impossible

Ive got a 3yo called The Word who thinks otherwise lol

its too hard mate, even the great crazyboy or esagent would struggle to complete that double in the league!!4f difference is too much

I know m8, I think ive only done it once or twice in the game never mind the league

The Word barely gets 1m2 lol

Yeh its hard in game aswell so u can imagine trying to beat milers in league and then derby horses aswell