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jalupen
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:00 am Posts: 1288
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horses for courses mate taken me about 10 seasons to work that out, put a lot of work into race handy types specifically for these 2 races, very hard to pass a half decent front runner at Epsom, the only downside is they don't run that well at other tracks(compared to the rest of my string)so they will both be retired to the great recycling bin in the sky,got 5 2yo coming in ready to conquer santa anita and hanshin that was the plan at the start of the season.
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Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:32 pm |
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nashwan
Group 2 winner
Joined: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:45 pm Posts: 951 Location: Thailand
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Well done with your oaks win Steve I hope u get more G1's this season
Woeful rides from my horses Will not be loading up any more horses race kit & league kit has a problem All the best to everyone for the rest of the season C ya in SO6
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Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:34 pm |
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ghostzapper74
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:03 am Posts: 4148 Location: Wales
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jalupen wrote: horses for courses mate taken me about 10 seasons to work that out, put a lot of work into race handy types specifically for these 2 races, very hard to pass a half decent front runner at Epsom, the only downside is they don't run that well at other tracks(compared to the rest of my string)so they will both be retired to the great recycling bin in the sky,got 5 2yo coming in ready to conquer santa anita and hanshin that was the plan at the start of the season. I've never bred a horse for a certain race in jumps or flat. I'd always prefer a all round horse compared to a horse for a certain race.
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Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:41 pm |
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jalupen
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:00 am Posts: 1288
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cheers nash we all know its flawed mate that was the main reason I bred front runners after last seasons classic runners,the only good thing was both races were run sub 2:30 hope you reconsider was looking forward to beating mootby in the leger
ghost I had held up/slight hold up horses last season winning all the maidens then flopping in the classics decided on a different approach got lucky that I had a very good 1m1f/1m2f handy type stallion(the stallion seems to pass on its running style to the offspring) and as we all know Epsom in the race kit is flawed just played on that really was quite confident that I would place in both.
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Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:04 pm |
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ghostzapper74
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:03 am Posts: 4148 Location: Wales
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jalupen wrote: cheers nash we all know its flawed mate that was the main reason I bred front runners after last seasons classic runners,the only good thing was both races were run sub 2:30 hope you reconsider was looking forward to beating mootby in the leger
ghost I had held up/slight hold up horses last season winning all the maidens then flopping in the classics decided on a different approach got lucky that I had a very good 1m1f/1m2f handy type stallion(the stallion seems to pass on its running style to the offspring) and as we all know Epsom in the race kit is flawed just played on that really was quite confident that I would place in both. The one thing I don't get is my trails over 1m4f were run slightly quicker than the league races and Acatenago was always just behind the leaders say the top 4 but he doesn't run like it in the league. I liked him because he ran near the front but he's out the back in the league races and if he keeps running like that then he has no chance of winning any race. 
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Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:19 pm |
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nashwan
Group 2 winner
Joined: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:45 pm Posts: 951 Location: Thailand
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I will be running the horses the rest of the season Steve Mootby will go for the Leger but i know he wont win Maybe get a place at best maybe last place My team are only the cast offs what never made it last season but i will go all out to get better horses in SO6 Take care mate & best of luck good to see u winning
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Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:22 pm |
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jalupen
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:00 am Posts: 1288
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your cast offs are still winning races mate
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Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:28 pm |
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jalupen
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:00 am Posts: 1288
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do you run a pacemaker ghost? and whats his natural style of running?
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Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:29 pm |
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The Duke
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:55 pm Posts: 1915 Location: Birmingham
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Congrats on your Oaks winner Steve, my filly is no mug so to beat her is a serious performance.
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Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:17 pm |
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jalupen
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:00 am Posts: 1288
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cheers jamie
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Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:39 pm |
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ghostzapper74
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:03 am Posts: 4148 Location: Wales
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jalupen wrote: do you run a pacemaker ghost? and whats his natural style of running? I've got two horses that just are natural front runners, Moon Cactus and Only Royale who won a listed chase last year. They have probably been the most important thing in helping my 1m2-1m6 horses. They run a lovely 26 secs and they take my horses into the last furlong. My 1m2f and 1m6f have been competitive but my 1m4 horses has struggled big time. User Friendly is the only horse that has been competitive, she won 2 group 1s last season but she needed a fast pace because she ran from dead last. I put in more pace into my middle distance horses and Acatanengo was the best I had, so its a little disappointing after he ran so well in his maiden, he ran closer to the pace(like he did in my trials) in the maiden. He likes ascot and won three out of four trial races there so I'll see how he gets on there, is what it is.
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Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:39 pm |
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follis86
Group 2 winner
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:37 pm Posts: 853
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William Butler (6th) - Good run, just out of the money though Milth (8th) - Better over slightly shorter Moohimm (2nd) - Excellent run off top weight, just couldn't quite get up. Could struggle to find races for him now though with his mark going up Franken (12th) - A poor horse Looney (19th) - Off the pace from the start, shocking run Liquid Luna (11th) - Last and outclassed in the Coronation Cup
A great run from Moohimm but nothing else
Thanks to the team for running the races
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Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:14 pm |
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Pommard
Group 2 winner
Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:58 pm Posts: 779
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Good day for me winning Race 1, a mad cavalry charge round Wolverhampton  . Blazing Abbey was back to probably his optimum distance after just failing to stay in the Guineas. Back up in class for the Jersey stakes next. Also a couple in the money in the stayers handicaps but my oaks filly, who is at least as good as Blazing Abbey, suffers from her running style. She will spring a suprise at some point though  Congrats to all winners and placers, especially at Epsom where my horses are always useless.
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Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:15 pm |
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ghostzapper74
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:03 am Posts: 4148 Location: Wales
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Happy with my three runners.
Magic Gleam 3rd, ran well in the gr2, she struggles to get the 5. Land of Dreams 1st, I wish the jockey wouldn't take it up so far out. Hector Protecter 2nd, done on the line but should be competitive in group races.
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Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:39 am |
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follis86
Group 2 winner
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:37 pm Posts: 853
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Castellet (14th) - Outclassed and finished second last William Strider (10th) - Not good enough in G3 company Too Much William (8th) - Was expecting a better run than that Get What She Wants (13th) - She's been a big disappointment after her good debut Nice Pair (6th) - Weakened badly at the end Little Frankie (9th) - Missed the break but still expected much more on debut over 7f Bus Link (6th) - Another poor performance
A collection of poor displays today
Thanks to the team once again
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Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:10 pm |
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