Yes please, so long as my horses aren't demoted even further down the field! Also when do the ratings get updated in TOM?

Was there much pace in 2000?

NH is up to date as soon as the results are posted Flat can only be updated when the weeks rollover so anytime from Wednesday afternoon onwards. It depends on when Gray and Jamie have finished doing what needs to be done.

R21 Dodge City Dame had enough of this

my horse may not have been good enough to beat Cahya but for god sake this is now beyond a joke
i don't mind being beat fair and square but in both guineas i just feel cheated by what the jockey has done
there is a serious error in the race kit

i guess i am a bit peeved because i put so much time into the milers only distance i bred at
yes i use pacemakers to find my most consistent at quick times to come up with shortlist for finals
but my milers were selected by how they did in final trials with no pacemakers they never did this in my ck


even pace dont trail challenge earlier what does the jockey not understand about that


the above image says it all again this is not sour grapes just very frustrated i guess

in fact looking at the race again
Cactus kate and Gharam 2 of the form fillies finished behind mine
i love how my jockey is dead last and still decides to pull the horse
ah well sorry for rant guys its not like me just feel really frustrated by it

R27 Cazzablanca 6th looked outpaced so prix diane will suit then
R28 Figarowa 6th just out the money trip 2f too short but small field was worth a crack

Was the pace that quick for the entire race?

Is it possible yours is outpaced Paul? I know it's happened to other trainers as well, but all mine seem ok.

I think by setting restrictive instructions like you have Paul they ride them rigidly no matter what the pace of race is.

With a pace going so quickly as that, by riding at an 'even' pace he is obviously taking a view that they are going too quickly out in front and riding a more conservative race. This is my reading of the instructions anyway - I never select a running style when setting my instructions, learnt my lesson a few seasons ago.

the pace was around 37 to 38 mph from start so plenty quick enough they kept that pace to the 5f to go pole
when it went up to 39mph
it was a freak time 136.55
about half a second quicker than i have ever seen in ck

i think the lesson i have learnt is let them run with no instructions for milers
have not seen any problems at any other distance

It's good to firm going though PJ. I've seen a time of 136:3 for that ground condition.

ah ya that explains it

Congrats on winning the 1000 Guineas Andy. Will try and batch up some milers for you to have a trial with at some point over the next couple of days.

The problem is Paul that almost everyone has the same instructions challenge early even pace etc so this is going to create strange events for some horses.

Correct.

Thanks.. but TBH I don't really have time to trial much . Rather send you some. I've looked at the 12f horses you sent me and they are really quite good. I've trialled them against my horses and found a better batch that appears to run evenly with yours. I'll send them across though I haven't finished trialling all the potential candidates.

It's a crying shame you're not in the league.

There will be another season of SO5