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Author:  Pommard [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Cheltenham ground

HEAVY! I thought I was in a low budget sc-fi movie and had woken up in the 1970's when I saw that.
With the exception of one memorable Desert Orchid day, or possibly after the snow had melted for The Thinker it must be about 1980 since they had proper heavy ground. They usually have to drain the local reservoir of water just to make it good to firm.
It's not going to affect my donkeys but it might be a case of throwing the formbook out of the window in some of the big races.

Author:  ghostzapper74 [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cheltenham ground

Pommard wrote:
HEAVY! I thought I was in a low budget sc-fi movie and had woken up in the 1970's when I saw that.
With the exception of one memorable Desert Orchid day, or possibly after the snow had melted for The Thinker it must be about 1980 since they had proper heavy ground. They usually have to drain the local reservoir of water just to make it good to firm.
It's not going to affect my donkeys but it might be a case of throwing the formbook out of the window in some of the big races.


My horses love a slog in the bog, they are a bit slow. :D

Author:  Pommard [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cheltenham ground

ghostzapper74 wrote:
Pommard wrote:
HEAVY! I thought I was in a low budget sc-fi movie and had woken up in the 1970's when I saw that.
With the exception of one memorable Desert Orchid day, or possibly after the snow had melted for The Thinker it must be about 1980 since they had proper heavy ground. They usually have to drain the local reservoir of water just to make it good to firm.
It's not going to affect my donkeys but it might be a case of throwing the formbook out of the window in some of the big races.


My horses love a slog in the bog, they are a bit slow. :D


If yours are slow mine must be going in reverse :)

Author:  simpleminds [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cheltenham ground

ghostzapper74 wrote:
Pommard wrote:
HEAVY! I thought I was in a low budget sc-fi movie and had woken up in the 1970's when I saw that.
With the exception of one memorable Desert Orchid day, or possibly after the snow had melted for The Thinker it must be about 1980 since they had proper heavy ground. They usually have to drain the local reservoir of water just to make it good to firm.
It's not going to affect my donkeys but it might be a case of throwing the formbook out of the window in some of the big races.


My horses love a slog in the bog, they are a bit slow. :D



If your horses are slow mine must be standing still I can't believe all my horses want good ground I think you are going to win at least 10 over the jumps this week Mr Morgan hope you got your Trucks ready to haul the Money back to wales it won't be the Irish Trainers the bookies will be fearing its the Welsh Trainer J Morgan.

Gray

Author:  ghostzapper74 [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cheltenham ground

simpleminds wrote:
ghostzapper74 wrote:
Pommard wrote:
HEAVY! I thought I was in a low budget sc-fi movie and had woken up in the 1970's when I saw that.
With the exception of one memorable Desert Orchid day, or possibly after the snow had melted for The Thinker it must be about 1980 since they had proper heavy ground. They usually have to drain the local reservoir of water just to make it good to firm.
It's not going to affect my donkeys but it might be a case of throwing the formbook out of the window in some of the big races.


My horses love a slog in the bog, they are a bit slow. :D



If your horses are slow mine must be standing still I can't believe all my horses want good ground I think you are going to win at least 10 over the jumps this week Mr Morgan hope you got your Trucks ready to haul the Money back to wales it won't be the Irish Trainers the bookies will be fearing its the Welsh Trainer J Morgan.

Gray


The ground is perfect for my jumpers because only three of my horses don't go, if the ground had come up on the faster side a lot of these wouldn't have run. I have a love hate relationship with festival, I think I might have won about 5 races last year but had a poor Aintree but the year before that I won one race a h'cap but I think I won well over 10 races at aintree. I've never won any of the 3 big races.

Author:  ghostzapper74 [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cheltenham ground

Pommard wrote:
ghostzapper74 wrote:
Pommard wrote:
HEAVY! I thought I was in a low budget sc-fi movie and had woken up in the 1970's when I saw that.
With the exception of one memorable Desert Orchid day, or possibly after the snow had melted for The Thinker it must be about 1980 since they had proper heavy ground. They usually have to drain the local reservoir of water just to make it good to firm.
It's not going to affect my donkeys but it might be a case of throwing the formbook out of the window in some of the big races.


My horses love a slog in the bog, they are a bit slow. :D


If yours are slow mine must be going in reverse :)


You never know at Cheltenham, there's always surprises there.

Author:  jupiterjimmy [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cheltenham ground

Is the Glenfarclas race going to be run over the Cross Country Fences?

It would be a shame if it wasn't given we have the course in the game.

Author:  Anadin [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cheltenham ground

Should make Chelts a cracker imo....

But what the (proverbial) with the flat this week 18 Group races out of 33 :shock: This Running alongside Cheltenham with just under half group 2 or above seems a tough week.

a week for the Schedule editor for future seasons maybe :wink:

Author:  Wannabe [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cheltenham ground

Races 1 - 10 and 21 - 28 are heavy ground.

Why are races 11 - 20 on Good to Soft if all the races are at Cheltenham?

Author:  Anadin [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cheltenham ground

Wannabe wrote:
Races 1 - 10 and 21 - 28 are heavy ground.

Why are races 11 - 20 on Good to Soft if all the races are at Cheltenham?


Sunny & windy day on the Tuesday I imagine... :wink:

Author:  jupiterjimmy [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cheltenham ground

Anadin wrote:
Wannabe wrote:
Races 1 - 10 and 21 - 28 are heavy ground.

Why are races 11 - 20 on Good to Soft if all the races are at Cheltenham?


Sunny & windy day on the Tuesday I imagine... :wink:


That makes little sense, it should be heavy across the board.

In real life if horses run on heavy ground on day 1. The ground will cut up even more.

It would take the worlds best drainage system and a wickedly warm day to make the ground good to soft for day 2.

Then why back to heavy again. I know its not real life just a video game but still where's the realism?

Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cheltenham ground

it is what it is we have to like it or lump it see little point moaning about it

the weather is done by an app not by a person

Author:  jupiterjimmy [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cheltenham ground

pjrhodes1970 wrote:
it is what it is we have to like it or lump it see little point moaning about it

the weather is done by an app not by a person


Yeah but it can be changed.

Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cheltenham ground

jupiterjimmy wrote:
pjrhodes1970 wrote:
it is what it is we have to like it or lump it see little point moaning about it

the weather is done by an app not by a person


Yeah but it can be changed.


Its an app that throws up random weather and ground conditions based on stats from the course over the past years
its been used for seasons on here why should it be changed just to suit you Peter

Author:  ghostzapper74 [ Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Cheltenham ground

Boys we have always had it like this. This is last years going.

Cheltenham Day 1 Races 1-7 - Good
Cheltenham Day 2 Races 8-14 - Good To Soft
Cheltenham Day 3 Races 15-20 - Good
Cheltenham Day 4 Races 21-28 - Soft

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