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 Online JUMPS and FLAT Rules NEW AGE JUMP RULES 
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New Age Rule in NH PLEASE CHECK the age Rules.

National Hunt League Rules


General

Clones : N/A under New League Mode

Age : Horse must be a year older than the previous season. eg if 4 last season must be 5 this season, if 3 two seasons ago it must be 5 this season.

Name : Horses must have a different name to horses you have previously uploaded, else they won't be accepted

Mid Season uploads - after week 5 and before week 6. You will be allowed to upload new horses. You will be able to retire a max of 5 horses and you can upload as many horses as you want up to the max stable size ( 25 for flat and 30 for NH )

Exporting Horse Files - All Exported Horses for the league MUST be Reset before exporting and Uploading to Tom in your CK Go to Your Horses highlight the Rating line and Click. Box will appear in the Box Type 975 and press enter this will change the rating to all Horses to 75.

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1. Novices - when uploading you will need to declare whether a horse is a novice or not. They will then remain a novice for the rest of the season

2. Handicaps - Horses are eligible for 3f either side of their best run


Hurdlers Age Rules in League

Races Range From 2miles to 3miles 2f

National Hunt Flat (NHF)- 4UP Select Novice on Upload. Horses 4yo can Run in NHF, Juvenile, 4UP Novices Hurdle and Non Graded Handicaps but can only Run in Handicaps once its Run over Hurdles (Juvenile Hurdle or Novice Hurdle) has to have a rating.

Juvenile Hurdlers - 4yo Only Select Novice on Upload. Runs in Juvenile, NHF Races, Novices Hurdles, Non Graded Handicap Hurdles can only Run in Handicaps once its Run over Hurdles (Juvenile Hurdle or Novice Hurdle) has to have a rating.

Novice Hurdler - 5up Only Select Novice on Upload. Can run in Novice Hurdles, NHF and Non Graded Handicap Hurdles.

Open Hurdler - 7UP Select Open on Upload. Hurdlers that are running after Juvenile and novice days can run in all Handicaps and Grade races.

Chases Age Rules in League

Races Range From 2miles to 4miles 4f

Novice Chaser 5up Only Select Novice on Upload. Are First Season Chaser's can run in Novice Chases and Non Graded Handicap Chases.

Open Chaser - 7UP Select Open on Upload. Chasers that are running after novice days can run in all Handicaps and Grade races.

Hunter Chasers - 5UP Select Open/Novice on Upload. in the league Hunter Chases are used as Low Handicap Chases max rating 100 once horse is above that Rating it no longers qualify's for Hunter chases.


Special Exemption

Grand National horse (Chaser) 7UP Select Open on Upload. in a recent pole the Your National horse/horses must be at least a 7yo.


Double Entry Races

Some races through the Season will allow trainers Double Runners

Big Field Races

30 limit in NH Races except Grand National Which is 40.

When races are above the Limit All Trainers have 1 runner no matter the rating of the horse unless instructed the lowest rated Horse of the trainers horses be it in Handicap Or other race will be scratched.
If more than 30 or 40 (National) trainers have horses enter after restriction to 1 horse per trainer then Lowest rated horses are scratched if Horses at the bottom on the same Rating then it is done by alphabetical order.

If Trainers have two runners and the race is above the Limit then again Every trainer is Guranteed a runner then the lowest rated Horses are Balloted Out first unless Trainer states which one he wants to scratch from his horses again if horses at the bottom of race are rated the same then balloted by alphabetical Order.

ADDITIONAL -2019 Only Horse files from the New League Mode Game can enter the league any TTF File Horse will be thrown out and Trainer may be banned for that current Season.


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FLAT League Guidelines

General

Clones : No Longer in use due to League Mode change.

Age : Horse must be a year older than the previous season. eg if 3 last season must be 4 this season, if 3 two seasons ago it must be 5 this season.

Name : Horses must have a different name to horses you have previously uploaded, else they won't be accepted

Distance Rule - 2f either side of best Run Except Stayers 2m - 2m 5f

Mid Season uploads - after week 5 and before week 6. You will be allowed to upload new horses. You will be able to retire a max of 5 horses and you can upload as many horses as you want up to the max stable size ( 25 for flat and 30 for NH )

Exporting Horse Files - All Exported Horses for the league MUST be Reset before exporting and Uploading to Tom in your CK Go to Your Horses highlight the Rating line and Click. Box will appear in the Box Type 975 and press enter this will change the rating to all Horses to 75.

If Possible Returning horses please Reset them adjust its rating to what Tom has it online.

Double Entry Races

All races through the Season will allow trainers Double Runners but some racecourses cant have Big Fields do to tightness of race course below are a list of Racecourses which will have Group Races Limited Field size.

Group Race Limits

All USA Tracks Limit 16 Runners
Dubai 16 Runners

UK Courses

Newmarket Guineas 30 Runneers
Ascot 24 Runners
Doncaster 24 Runners
Epsom 20 Runners - Changed from 24 2019
Chester 20 Runners

Ireland

Curragh 24 Runners

Handicap and other races

Limit 30 Runners Except USA and Dubai Chester - (2019) which all races Limited to 20.


Big Field Races

When races are above the Limit All Trainers have 1 runner no matter the rating of the horse unless instructed the lowest rated Horse of the trainers horses be it in Handicap Or other race will be scratched.
If more than Limited trainers have horses enter after restriction to 1 horse per trainer then Lowest rated horses are scratched if Horses at the bottom on the same Rating then it is done by alphabetical order.

If Trainers have two runners and the race is above the Limit then again Every trainer is Guranteed a runner then the lowest rated Horses are Balloted Out first unless Trainer states which one he wants to scratch from his horses again if horses at the bottom of race are rated the same then balloted by alphabetical Order.

ADDITIONAL -2019 Only Horse files from the New League Mode Game can enter the league any TTF File Horse will be thrown out and Trainer may be banned for that current Season.


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Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:53 am
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Post Re: Online JUMPS and FLAT Rules NEW AGE JUMP RULES
We will probably not need to select open or novice anymore as it will all be age restricted. Will check what I can do with the code next week


Thu Dec 19, 2019 12:41 pm
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Not sure why we need to fix novices at 5yo only? Just increases the amount of trial work.


Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:15 pm
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To allow progression as there is no way 5YO are going to be competitive in S07. Also makes things easier to manage in code, will cut out a lot of checks and may speed things up a bit


Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:11 pm
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I get that it connects the 4yo’s to the novices races, but creates a gap at 6yo, my horses seem to be at their best at 7 or 8. It also does not reflect reality. Why not make it 5 to 6?


Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:47 pm
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You can't restrict races to 5 and 6 year olds in the race kit else 5 and 6 would be a viable option. There are 5YO only races in the race kit, maybe at later stage we can ask Mark to add a category restricting races to 5 and 6, currently the only option with 2 ages is 3YO and 4YO.

6YO are fine for league, 4 of my winners were 6. I know the 7YO are better but 6YO do well


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5up?


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And my six years olds could not win a donkey derby. I expect all your ages will be better than overs as your ahead of the curve by some margin, making rules on that basis is not a good president in my view.


Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:36 pm
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I'm not president and
am quite happy to leave things as they are as it is way less work for me.


Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:45 pm
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Post Re: Online JUMPS and FLAT Rules NEW AGE JUMP RULES
leonvr wrote:
You can't restrict races to 5 and 6 year olds in the race kit else 5 and 6 would be a viable option. There are 5YO only races in the race kit, maybe at later stage we can ask Mark to add a category restricting races to 5 and 6, currently the only option with 2 ages is 3YO and 4YO.

6YO are fine for league, 4 of my winners were 6. I know the 7YO are better but 6YO do well


Why not ask now? After the trials?

Let`s get it right straight away!

I'm still not sure how to trial NHF horses so don`t ask me. You in charge need to do this and make the game right as far as the league goes, you should be the ones asking Mark to make changes to the league kit or what are we supposed to do?

Don't take it the wrong way I fully understand how much work you put into the league and I appreciate the time taken for everyone else. The race kit needs tweaking and it's surely not a big job.


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simpleminds wrote:

Clones : No full brothers or sisters are allowed. These will be treated as clones and removed from your stable

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I understand why this was in place in prior games/leagues but seems a little draconian now. Any reason why this rule hasn't been scrapped as suggested by other members of the forum?


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I'm not president and am quite happy to leave things as they are as it is way less work for me.


I’d vote for you :). Seems I was having a bad spelling day.

5 and 6 makes much better sense for me and I agree we should ask mark if the only issue is the race kit settings. It will connect juvenile to novice to open nicely for those who want to return horses for many potentially 4/5 seasons.


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One of these rules need changing , u cant keep the rule about the horses names . There is no way u can know what names u have used in past games after all these years. :D


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One of these rules need changing , u cant keep the rule about the horses names . There is no way u can know what names u have used in past games after all these years. :D


I asked about names the other week and Leon said as it was now 07 it was a clean sheet and it was ok to use names you had used before in an earlier version

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Lordedaw wrote:
ghostzapper74 wrote:
One of these rules need changing , u cant keep the rule about the horses names . There is no way u can know what names u have used in past games after all these years. :D


I asked about names the other week and Leon said as it was now 07 it was a clean sheet and it was ok to use names you had used before in an earlier version


Thanks , it would be awfully hard trying to keep a eye out for every horse u ever raced. :D


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