Split group 1's on turning courses into an equivalent G2. Second entries first then lowest rated.

There will still be hard luck stories from draw 20 but draw 30 or 35 at somewhere like Goodwood or Sandown you have no chance.

It will mean big trainers might have not have 2 entries in a race but league should be inclusive and all trainers should be given a runner before lowest rated is removed

Obviousely there will be some leeway here. Always 20 in G1 but if ther are only 21 entries then no split. Probably will need at least 25 or 26 to warrent splitting a race. But we are getting way more than that amount of entries in some races

If need be trainers can nominate what they want in the G2 and G1 from their 2 entries.

If a G1 has too many entries then change it to one horse per trainer.

This will cheapen the G1’s and degrade the league. I agree with Doug either one per trainer of better still drop off the lowest rated horses.

Ok but something needs to be done. Changing rules mid season is not going to happen. People planned their teams accordingly. We can ballot out entries and remove double entries next season. But its either spit or leave for this season. So looks like we will have 30 plus runners in races at Goodwood. Might be as fun as that York race.

I voted against The Spilt I rather do Min Rating then one per trainer and then lowest its fair and if your horse isn't good enough well it should run in a group 1 I had 1 runner in week 1 in Dubai to think I didn't send Sinn Script might now of been a mistake but I have always known I don't have or in the past been able to compete with the top guys in the Flat. You need to run your horses to the races in the schedule if you have a 70 rated horse it should run in handicaps not Group 1.

Gray

ok looks like at this stage a max field size. We will need to let people know in advance for Goodwood and update the rules to reflect this. Probably before entries open. We can't have another York farce race again where horses are running through the trees and crowds especially in a G1.

Some courses can only handle around 20 and they should be added to rules then

Instead of this why not have one person or two different people sit down and have a look at every course we have a group1 over and work out how many horses should be running in those races and then come to some simple solution about how many horses can run in them . If a course cant hold a lot of horses over lets say that distance then have a group1 h'cap over that distance some where else to make up for it so everyone can have a runner .

Agree we should set Group 1 Max Limit to all courses outside the ones we already have for Dubai and USA a Min Rating should be first step that should happen after week5 Before Ascot and onwards Min Ratings something we need to sort of Course is the Handicapping and letting the race Kit do it we will let the kit handicap week 13 see what it does then set a new Standard Flat and Jump Rating at beginning of next season so Uploads wont be affected by Min Ratings if we switch to week 7.

Gray

Oh well we said the same thing at the same time , im off work now I don't mind going through the races.

You could run a consolation race (b race) if you get 26+ entries, for the lowest rated 6+ horses. So a G1 would therefore always be between 20 and 25 horses. Consolation race wouldn't have to have commentary, maybe just small price money.

It is frustrating having horses balloted out of a race and not given a run, so it would be good to avoid that if possible.

That is the idea of all these polls. But they for next season. We need a quick fix for this season as the York farce race can't be allowed to happen again.

Problem races in week 8 will be

Goodwood Cup
Sussex Stakes
King george

and maybe even the Nassau

Best to sort this now before we run into issues at race time again. Handicaps on courses that can't handle big fields will have to be split. Its not fair on half the trainers Drawn 30 and above is just a pointless run at most courses. You can talk all you want about bad luck. Bad draw of 20 is bad luck. Draw 34 you may not even have your horse in the race.

Why I wanted to split the balance into a consolation G2 but it is not popular. If races are added they need to be added early so people have a chance to enter. Because it will need to be done manuallly it will only be me who can add these. Hopefully I will have the time as lockdown looks like ending soon.

Need someone with the old graphics to run them races ,didn't have problems with them . I didn't dream that did I where if u bought the game new u could have the old graphics.

It's nothing to do with graphics. The stalls are outside the fence letting the horses go on a run through the trees and crowds. There is a reason why races have limits in game and in reality to. In any case people have spent ages getting their horses. I'm all for bad luck but draw 35 or 40 outside the railings is not bad luck its just stupidity for allowing such a big field.

note this is flat only. NH is not a problem


Run a race with 30 plus horses at Goodwood. Half the field will run way more and make no attempt to get in. It's bad enough they stay 10 wide the whole way. But 30 plus at Goodwood is just a joke.

Too many at Ascot and they will be in the trees