It has been raised that Cheltenham this week shouldn't be firm on grounds of realism. Please vote to say whether we roll the dice again.

2 days to vote, 80% must be in favour.

Feel free to campaign in the thread for Yes or No.

T-shirts for Team Yes and Team No go on sale on Monday.

ive been thinking

on firm ground sandra bullock has very little chance, wheras mandango fandango has everything in his favour, trip and ground!!!

muahahahahah

no id rather a more realistic festival tbh

Good would be good!!!

Fact of the day: Cheltenham ground has been good to firm 3 times in the last 22 years. Never firm.

it would never ever be firm rich!!even if 80% majority isnt reached it shud be good to firm not firm

trainers voting firm i say this to u - my horses prefer firm!!FACT - look at my stable. however i voted for realism , not for my own stable chances!! i urge you to do the same

Rich, how do you decide what the weather will be like each week?

I rate the ground types in order of how my horses will do on it and then pick the one they'll do worst on. Or that seems to be how it works....

The weather process is two stepped. Firstly the season is selected, that is dependent on the time of year the race is run, hence Cheltenham (march) is Spring, Ebor Festival (august) is Summer.

The season dictates what percentage chance of each type of ground.

Spring, from memory, is 5% Heavy, 15% Soft, 25% Good To Soft, 40% Good, 10% Good to Firm, 5% Firm

Then I click a button and tada, the ground is selected.

Who's the 2 who has gone for FIRM?

Come on guys this is Cheltenham, the best meeting in the league by a country mile.

Please vote No- Again.

personally it not effect me much either ground is picked

but firm is asking a lot in March

prob end up again on firm...lol

Paul(LR)

80% is asking to much Rich

70% would be more realistic.

Obviously if noone posts in this thread their opposition then I will have to assume their anonymous vote is simply troublemaking.

But if someone has a lot of Firm ground horses that's a perfectly valid reason!

Take into account that all the Flat guys will pick Firm.

Just to mess with us NH nuts.

lol, people aren't that sad

Hell, if everyone is in the same boat it won't matter!

Keep it firm so I can enter my only horse.

If you do decide to reroll then why not reroll the UK weather too since most dont like G/S. Lol we could have a poll every week on the weather

So I say keep it as is