Ubar02 wrote:
That 100l race was a farce, only one other runner who was put in so it wasn't a walkover, but clearly he was exceptional, its very hard to compare pre-war horses to modern day horses though, a lot has changed since then, training breeding etc. I generally try not to look at anything pre 1950 when comparing, when Timeform ratings started is probably as early as I'd go.
That is why I make a lot of my own figures. Something interesting about him is that the winning times were very close to winning times now, something that is hard to say for so many. He won at 1 1/2 miles in 2:28.4 at Belmont Park, slightly faster than this years Belmont Stakes. And he comes from the Godolphin Arabian sire-line, one that is nearly dead in the US and around the world.
Also, for many races he was carrying by far the most weight, carried 130 for most, and even carried 135 and 138 too. Just an exceptional horse.
nashwan wrote:
Black Caviar - Are u having a laugh
Maybe hehe. I actually think her Diamond Jubilee win pushes her in the top 5 (in my opinion, and one that hurts me to say cause there are so many good horses I am leaving out, Phar Lap, Zenyatta, Kelso, Nearco, War Admiral, West Australian, Gainsborough, Nijinsky just to name a few). Winning in a kinda weak Australia is one thing, being undefeated there is another, but coming from another hemisphere to beat some of the best in the world, that puts her over.