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Frankel vs Black Caviar in the Sussex Stakes?
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Author:  Ubar02 [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:26 pm ]
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panther wrote:
Realistically, it was never going to happen. Black Caviar would have very little to gain from taking on Frankel over 1 mile, especially so soon after the July Cup.

Of Peter Moody's misinformed comment about the idea of the £1m Sussex Stakes clash though - "''We race for that sort of money all the time. It is a big race for them, not for us", I don't know where he's getting his conversion rates, as there aren't any sprint or mile weight-for-age races for older horses in Australia that are worth anywhere near £1 million. BC's two main targets in the Spring Carnival - the Manikato and Patinack Classic - are worth less than that combined.

Doesn't want to admit he's scared! :lol:
Author:  HurricaneRun [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:20 pm ]
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I agree Ubar but Black Caviar isn't just the usual multiple group 1 winner either, she is a sprinting phenomenon and I think, over their respective distances, they would beat each other and as their distances are relatively far apart (sprinting a diff game to mile-middle distance) a match race is very unlikely!!
Author:  exxplozion [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:43 am ]
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pjrhodes1970 wrote:
oh god :twisted:


I'm counting the winnings already Paul :lol:
Author:  Ubar02 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:35 am ]
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exxplozion wrote:
pjrhodes1970 wrote:
oh god :twisted:


I'm counting the winnings already Paul :lol:

Less than 700 behind the leaders now-this ones in the bag! :lol:
Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:28 am ]
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how much will it cost me to buy you off UBAR

:lol: :lol:
Author:  Ubar02 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:47 am ]
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Let me think ... £260?! :lol:
Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:18 pm ]
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NO DEAL :lol: :lol: :lol:
Author:  Ubar02 [ Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:24 pm ]
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pjrhodes1970 wrote:
NO DEAL :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol:
Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:43 pm ]
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http://www.veoh.com/watch/v30566865NN9rYw8h :P :lol: :lol: :lol:
hitlers master plan to get the 2 best horses in the world to the sussex stakes
Author:  Demonic_Panda [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:16 pm ]
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Absolutely NO chance of it happening - and it's frankly unfair and foolhardy to expect Black Caviar to race over 1m.

BTW - Black Caviar is the superior horse.
Author:  pjrhodes1970 [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Frankel vs Black Caviar in the Sussex Stakes?
Demonic_Panda wrote:
Absolutely NO chance of it happening - and it's frankly unfair and foolhardy to expect Black Caviar to race over 1m.

BTW - Black Caviar is the superior horse.


would not disagree with you
Rock of Gibraltor actually had a beter 3yo career than frankel

but he is a monster of a horse so is BC
Author:  panther [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:14 pm ]
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pjrhodes1970 wrote:
Rock of Gibraltor actually had a beter 3yo career than frankel


Hmmm, on paper Rock Of Gibraltar won 5 G1s at 3yo, compared to Frankel's 4, but I'm not sure I'd agree that ROG's 3yo career was better, purely based on that...

Frankel's wins in the 2000 Guineas, Sussex Stakes and QEII Stakes were truly outstanding, thrashing multiple G1 winners with ease in the Sussex and QEII. Rock Of Gibraltar was a great horse, but his wins were not as impressive, and were also in weaker races.
Author:  Ubar02 [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:55 pm ]
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panther wrote:
pjrhodes1970 wrote:
Rock of Gibraltor actually had a beter 3yo career than frankel


Hmmm, on paper Rock Of Gibraltar won 5 G1s at 3yo, compared to Frankel's 4, but I'm not sure I'd agree that ROG's 3yo career was better, purely based on that...

Frankel's wins in the 2000 Guineas, Sussex Stakes and QEII Stakes were truly outstanding, thrashing multiple G1 winners with ease in the Sussex and QEII. Rock Of Gibraltar was a great horse, but his wins were not as impressive, and were also in weaker races.

I would also say his st James palace was good as it showed how good he was tht he could win a group 1 of one of the worst rides I have ever seen.
Author:  Ubar02 [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:51 pm ]
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Demonic_Panda wrote:
Absolutely NO chance of it happening - and it's frankly unfair and foolhardy to expect Black Caviar to race over 1m.

BTW - Black Caviar is the superior horse.

Love the way all the talk was coming out before ascot-and none after!
Author:  Ubar02 [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:55 pm ]
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Looking at form lines, would have been a no contest- moonlight cloud a nose behind, beaten several lengths by excelebration who this season has been beaten on average 8 lengths.
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