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I'v never played league etc and only ever played casually.

How far away from that level are my horses?

I'v been focusing on potential, cruising and extra speed. Obviously I'd love to get a horse with max (or 80 cruising?) for all stats but I don't know if that's feasible? Can somebody share screenshots of their best horses stats?

https://i.gyazo.com/9735974b7e51b685462 ... e7f41d.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/38901c95326a0779c81 ... d43bd6.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/a3697dbb86c2b226386 ... 90d57b.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/336e35ae21534b29eea ... 91e4ac.jpg

As a side note, what's with horses with mediocre stats that happen to be superstars?
https://i.gyazo.com/4db0c25fe899de94fb3 ... fdc7c1.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/e49fc71fb0e9baf1aae ... d56cb1.jpg

I don't think I have a single mare in my barn that wouldn't lose cruising burst / extra speed by breeding to that. I know horses have hidden attributes but they must be really important? Is there any point breeding from one of these?


Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:44 pm
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the fact that you can see these bars means these horses wont be allowed into the league
only horses exported from league play can run in the league and we have no idea of how good our
cruising burst or extra speed is because those bars are hidden too.

If you are seriously considering joining the league id start playing league mode ASAP and if you need
any help or mentoring I'd be happy to help

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craigywatt wrote:
I'v never played league etc and only ever played casually.

How far away from that level are my horses?



Firstly I agree with Paul, you need to play league mode.

Yes they would be good enough to try, you never know till you try but you will have to click 'League Mode' when starting a game! And now you never know so much more, cruising burst and the rest is again hidden. Don't be put off though, everyone is in the same position.


Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:09 am
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For League horses, would you guys recommend separate games for flat/jump horses? or both codes on the same game?


Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:40 pm
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jonah619 wrote:
For League horses, would you guys recommend separate games for flat/jump horses? or both codes on the same game?



Some might disagree but id say concentrate on one game you can trial you flat horses over sticks too export them at 2 3 and 5 some
flat horses make great 2 milers to 2 mile 4 jumps horses. What i have noticed with the new setup you can only concentrate at one thing at a
time.

First job is to find a male horse with 85+ potential and buy lots of mares for him to cover

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If you going to want to enter the NH league, best to play the combined game. With the stable max being 512, you can easily keep enough horses for flat and Nh. In the past SO games the flat horses did well over Nh, but there he is almost a complete disconnect between the 2 now. Besides NH horses are peaking at 7 and 8 ( I have even have some full potential at 9 and had 1 had 10 ) and sometimes at 6. So flat 5 year olds are going to be at a big disadvantage. In the older SO games milers would make good 2 milers but that doesn't hold anymore as have had 14f and 12f make good 2 milers. You need to run over fences to see what distances are best and its best to do this in the game else trailing is a nightmare.


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Seems to me most people play flat only games and send their rejects to NH. Not a bad idea tbh. Doing this you get 2yos from the pre season auction. The combined schedule auction has 3yo+ in the pre season auction and the jumps has 4yos, correct me if I'm wrong. I like to have 3 active games, 2 flat and one either jumps or combined but that's me atm.
If I were starting now I would start a flat game and buy all the 2yo horses available, resell all the rubbish potential. Export everything and I mean everything. Wait till you have a good pool of exported horses (200+) then start trialling, first over the flat distances then over jumps at every distance. Good horses can do both codes and over a wider variety of distances than they could in game.
I have noticed a difference in potential and progression when playing my jumps game, they peak later and even though the potential goes down they still perform and peak later, not sure how this affects any horses entered for the league.


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leonvr wrote:
If you going to want to enter the NH league, best to play the combined game. With the stable max being 512, you can easily keep enough horses for flat and Nh. In the past SO games the flat horses did well over Nh, but there he is almost a complete disconnect between the 2 now. Besides NH horses are peaking at 7 and 8 ( I have even have some full potential at 9 and had 1 had 10 ) and sometimes at 6. So flat 5 year olds are going to be at a big disadvantage. In the older SO games milers would make good 2 milers but that doesn't hold anymore as have had 14f and 12f make good 2 milers. You need to run over fences to see what distances are best and its best to do this in the game else trailing is a nightmare.


I'm finding very different results i tried it your way Leon with older horses 7 8 & 9 year olds and 12 to 14 furlong horses and my best
2 milers are 5 year old sprinters now I'm playing a purely flat game and they are all flat bred will be interesting when they all meet up in the
league and I'd say going by your results you will be right but I have to go with the best I have as im not jumps breeding.

Found a freakish 2 mile hurdler and bumper horse who wins my trials by 3 to 10 lengths i might send her to the trials day to test the water if GRAY
will let me change the horses i sent him

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leonvr wrote:
If you going to want to enter the NH league, best to play the combined game. With the stable max being 512, you can easily keep enough horses for flat and Nh. In the past SO games the flat horses did well over Nh, but there he is almost a complete disconnect between the 2 now. Besides NH horses are peaking at 7 and 8 ( I have even have some full potential at 9 and had 1 had 10 ) and sometimes at 6. So flat 5 year olds are going to be at a big disadvantage. In the older SO games milers would make good 2 milers but that doesn't hold anymore as have had 14f and 12f make good 2 milers. You need to run over fences to see what distances are best and its best to do this in the game else trailing is a nightmare.


I'm finding very different results i tried it your way Leon with older horses 7 8 & 9 year olds and 12 to 14 furlong horses and my best
2 milers are 5 year old sprinters now I'm playing a purely flat game and they are all flat bred will be interesting when they all meet up in the
league and I'd say going by your results you will be right but I have to go with the best I have as im not jumps breeding.

Found a freakish 2 mile hurdler and bumper horse who wins my trials by 3 to 10 lengths i might send her to the trials day to test the water if GRAY
will let me change the horses i sent him


Depends when your horses are maturing if you have full potential bar at 5 then they might run ok, but mine don't. My full potential bar for NH horses are 6, 7 and 8, sometimes 9. In trials the 6 and 7 year olds are way way better than anything at 5. My flat horses are younger 4 or 5 for full potential but they mostly usless at jumping. Unlike SO6 horses don't get further as they age except for the marathon horses and even then they still run ok over much shorter. In fact in game you get the jockeys saying they need further when they 5 or 6 but then at 7 and 8 they winning all the 2 mile races and the jockey comments are now saying the distance is ideal. So something is wrong with the jockey feedback. The stamina bars are not making much sense in NH. I have had a grand national winner with a 10f stamina bar and 2 miler champions that needed 14f on the flat, so proving really hard to figure out horses best distance. Also champions on the flat are proving really bad in NH even when they say there jumping is good, and vica versa. I'm going on sires now. I know certain sires produce NH horses and ignore there flat form

You definitely need either combined or jumps game to get the grand national types though.


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All great info Leon many thanks your results in the trials speak for themselves so
very much appreciate the help and advice as always you are open about how you do things

for me the national hunt side will be done for fun at least for the first season of the league
as I want to try and improve the flat side and it can be an endless task right now the thought
of starting jumps breeding just has no appeal to me so will enjoy plotting handicaps with my
5 year old sprint bred NH horses it will be a bit of craic

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If you have good 5 year olds just export them at 6. You can export them from the breeding barn. Stallions at any time. Mares before you breed with them in the season. That way you don't interfere with your breeding. Though if your horses are maturing at 5 it might not make much difference

This might just all be my game. I managed to buy a freak at 3 that won group 1's from 10f to 20f on the flat, and was my best 3 mile hurdler and grand national horse in the CK for a while. He had 2 incredible sons, one amazing flat horse and 1 amazing chaser, and due to this my lines have diverged radically.


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I have 2 games on the go right now. Flat and combined.

As mentioned previously i came to a stand still with getting stayers in my flat game.

When i started my combined i noticed a big different with my 3m+ NH horses.

I agree with some of Leon comments. The Combined game you definitely see more improvements with horses above 6yo+. I' still early in my Combined game right now. My flat game I've been improving steadily. My game time as become limited of late. Will be even more so in the coming weeks.

These trails will be a good indication of what to expect moving forward. Right now i feel more comfortable with my flat stable than my NH which isn't what i want.

What i have found is my first game i still haven't got a 100% max horse and I've played 60 seasons. Whereas the combined i got one within my first 5 seasons.

Gray as choice some awesome courses for the trails 3 day. I'm looking forwarded to the races.


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I have been playing two jump, one combined and one flat game for a while now. Like Leon I am consistently seeing in my jump games horses maturing from 7-10. My flat game they max around 3-5 and are usually in decline 5-6. My combined game was a mish mash, which made it more work and after exporting the last of my lines I deleted it today. I was really only ever getting flat horses in the barn so it did not feel combined. I may start another flat only game at some point.

4yo juvenile hurdlers are going to interesting, I am about to trial a few hundred mixed bag of jumpers and flat horses, will be an early indication for me if there is something more to the jumps type horses than just slow maturity rates.

It is all just an experiment right now, we will know soon enough if the league leans to proper age jumps races or just more Uber 5yo’s with mixed flat breeding. I’ll have a team of 8yo’s for the next trial will start from there.


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