Although most of the loopholes can be fixed. There is one in particular that can't. Not going to go into details but if I can think of it so can others.

So we left with a situation where it may be better to have a level playing field for all. Anyway it's up to the league to decide.

I voted to restore the bug, it seems to be the only fair way going forward.

Maybe Mark could make all sire stats visible in league mode, rather than just through a bug. This would then be fair for new players who don't know about the bug.

Can everyone just vote straight away so this can be finished straight away, the longer this goes on the longer it's putting people of. I'll put my winnings from the first vote on a open game. I think it was a mistake first time and history is repeating it's self but that's life. Will history show we bleeped up the most competitive league season for what is coming!!

I only voted for the stats as i was sure it was what people wanted, an this, I've only voted to see all the stats as I have no idea how else it's fair. I do agree with John though, feel this stuff wasn't needed as it was a very competitive league, and not being able to produce complete monsters was part of that. The fact everyone's stats were crap is why it was competitive.

Voted

Whats the bug not explained in the post

never been a fan of making major changes half way through a season
seem the latest changing of the goalposts mid season has caused other issues

The changes do not affect the current season. They will affect next season.

Will post details of the bug and how to access if approved which seems likely. It's not ideal but best everyone is on a level playing field

Yep we screwed the pooch nicely. I would say just hide the stats again and move on. But I guess the patch exploit of going back to 53 is the bit that cannot be solved.

Voted

Slept on this and given it a lot of thought. I have no vote! In fact just open it up fully for new players.

Like most players I was curious even though I voted against but it happened so I wanted to see what I maybe missing. Not a lot it turned out. My stables have the best as far as bars go so no advantage to be had in my games. Seems you just have to have a good game to start with.

Been able to see stallions stats is a bonus when starting a new game it seems and not such a great thing if you are many seasons into a game. So who gains an advantage?

Looks like new players gain the advantage if they can see sires attributes. Why not just let them see all the bars as if they owned them rather than just reinstate a bug.

Makes no difference to me as far as I can tell.

If I'd been able to see the bars in my first two games I would have ditched them!

This is what I suggested above, the best option is to open up sire stats for everyone in league mode. Presuming it can be done through a patch.

It's a binary selection of the options above. Those are the only 2 options

Mark isn't going to radically alter the game as this will affect everyone playing not just league players

Any update on this lads looks like its a 1 sided result

Thanks in advance

Mark needs his security cert to be updated to update the game. So waiting on that

Does this mean that there is no issue with patch 53 or whatever it was horses now and that they no longer need to be removed from your ck