Anyone whos done the handicapping in this League deserves a MEDAL that includes me i have apart of this season have handicapped Both Codes and my system was completely Different to Vinny's and even Sirius system before me. We all do it differently and Alex does his on the NH to what i did.

FLAT OR JUMPS

I would handicap every horse in Handicap races sometimes with big jumps more than 10lb if impressive win and never and i mean NEVER listen to the commentators who say that horse should go up at least 14lb's for that easy win \never listen to them.
You have to have a thick Skin to be a Commentator I should know.

Vinny Just look at the Complaints view the horse race in question and say bugger all unless you done any change mate.


Gray

So we going to do this with that BS cheat thing u just wrote.

First of i didn't call u a CHEAT but u are trying to influence what u horses are rated. We can ALL come in here and bitch about a horses in our stable, but u take the good ones with the bad ones and try to find races for them. U let the hcap do they job, even if its right or wrong( they do a great job). There should be no influence because a horse will always find their mark in the end.

So u claiming u horses should be rated Prince 90-95 and Lexicon 80-85

Lets break down those races. First of u should BLAME uself for running a 65 rated horse in a maiden, what did u think was going to happen if u won

Now lets go through these races.

So u think u Lexicon should be 80-85

1 Lexicon 102
2 Untochable 100
3 Special 100
4 True 104
5 Forlunda 90
6 Piktin 87
7 True 86

So u think u horse should be lower than the 6 or 7 place finisher in this race who u beat easily So if u Right then every trainer in this race should complain they are 20 pounds to high The second horse has not run since but the 3rd and 4th are real solid horses that holds the form up well. I sorry but u dreaming if u think u horse should be 80-85.

Lets go to the second race

1 Dynamic 115
2 Bombastic 112
3 Druid 103
4 Blumen 92
5 Dino 94
6 Royal 91
7 Bjorg 95
8 Mr Rigby 110

The form of that race is also very solid and yet horses u beat easily u want a rating equal or better than them. Looking at these races the h'capper should be applauded not questioned. The horses will always find their mark in the end.

Just get on and win races and be a champion. Win with style and lose with grace

Let's agree to disagree on this one Jim.

U done my horse 5 seasons ago and i've not forgiven u I'm glad they sacked u

Agree the guy couldn’t handicap a donkey ride at Blackpool

He rides like a donkey as well

Everything in my stable is at least 12lb higher than it should be.

It is down to Vinny's system of treating certain trainers differently.

He treats me badly because I am an EVERTONIAN and he is from the wrong side of the park.

I don' care .... ONCE A BLUE ALWAYS A BLUE

NIL SATIS NISI OPTIMUM

The rest of the Comms team convinced me to treat yours badly. I was gonna take pity because you were an Evertonian

all my horses should be rated 45 , they are all awful and finish last in very race, i can't even get a single point in the AW championship they are so bad, then again my horses couldn't win a race even if they were getting 6 stone from the other horses in a 0-60 handicap

U getting them lowly rated so u can mop up the 0-85 aw races when they start and win the cup

Can I also break the rules and enter Ayaarah Toldyaso in the Preakness? also rated 89 and this was her objective for the season.

and i will be putting an ante-post bet on Lexicon Wood for the EBOR, he will be so well handicapped after all these 2m races

I have stayed away from the forum for the last two days until I had calmed down.

I come back and read all these comments and I am no longer calm.

On page 1 of this thread I asked Vinny to look at some of my horses because I thought they were under rated, no one objected then. I ask him to look at a horse I think is over rated and people jump on my case. I merely expressed my opinion.

If Vinny agreed with me ok, if not that's ok as well. If you think Vinny is that weak that my request would influence him, shame on you for thinking it.

No one seems to object that my horses are treated more harshly in the handicap than the majority of trainers horses just because I have had a successful season. I didn't object when Vinny mentioned this in another post.

Mr Hughes, you will lose your Ebor bet. Unless I calm down by Friday, I will not be entering any more horses into the league.

Alex if you do not see any of my horses in races, I will not be race running.

I intend to stay away from the forum for the foreseeable future as I suspect there will be more comments posted that I will not like.

So because u can't Get u own way u taking u ball home with u.

If u going to keep making that statement about u horses then u better show some proof. Because those races don't back u argument up.
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Jim are u that desperate to win the league or something. Its a bleeping game

Jim if u want to be a champion then u got to face adversity, do u have what it takes