I'd say the bird has flown Hurricane, you see it's been left way to late, by the time it gets on it's way, people won't give up their christmas time for the league bud, it should have started a month ago so it didn't clash with the christmas holidays, but anything can happen i guess, that's why i wasn't happy about it all, because rich knew that, because colm said that half way through the last season of the league it's written somewhere on here by colm, all i can say is, it's not fair for the players that play the game just for the league only to be let down and to rub salt in our wounds we get lied too even, i'm sure not happy with what rich has done, and i sure wish steve took over the president role, but it's all in the past now, and i said my two pounds fifty worth, and if i offended you rich in anyway, i' am sorry, but i have to call it the way i see it otherwise i would be fooling myself.

You mean Christmas, when everyone is off work? When the racing calendar has some of it's most classic races? I don't think that's a bad idea at all, it probably takes all of 10 minutes to enter your horses. If you can't spare that over Christmas you can't spare it any other time.

Personally, I think the mix of handicaps and group races is fine. At the end of the day, last season would anyone disagree that Crazyboy deserved to win? His horses were clearly the best. However, he had very few minor handicap wins (1), the smaller trainers of Leon, Paul, Kevin etc. had the best success here and the success was spread out with 4 or 5 trainers getting their only victory in handicaps. That is exactly where I want it, I believe in a meritocracy, not broken benefits Britain where the lazy get free handouts.

Handicaps requiring 3 runs is a good rule and will take effect from week 4. Group 1 races being limited to the 20 highest rated horses is also a good idea, and will mean no maidens will be running in G1 races first time out.

Continuous uploads is also quite interesting, I've considered that in the past, I'll have a think about potential negative implications of it but if the stable size is limited anyway that could be a good alternative.

exactly pal, if you want to make the continuous uploads work then you do it by having a set stable size with limited retirements and no transfers. a player who wonbt be playing much can fill their stable, others can leave room for improvers.

so the first 3 weeks will all be maiden and group races, and then handicaps kick in after week 3??

also rich , do u have a date in mind for things to start bud, and also are the schedules being tweaked at all?

When colm said that about christmas he did not mean it about the players not taking part in the league rich, he mean't it about volunteers going on holidays and wanting to be with their families, so it was going to be hard to keep the volunteers on for the whole league season, hey don't get me wrong here bud, I will support you seeing that your the president rich, but what has been a failure on your part has been the communication with your own flock that's all, and please don't be offended by what I say as it's only the way it has been going on and on since you became president,
the other thing, the old schedule has been given a try and it proved that it works for a few players in the league with no names going to be mentioned, as the majority want more handicaps, why not give that a go, I mean at the end of the day it's about all the players not a handful of players is that not right, shake hands with steve and join forces and give his schedule a go it could be the best thing ever happened for the league.

Steve won't be making a schedule after the way he was treated when he put his name forward for the presidency. So a new/ amended schedule will have to be devised pretty sharpish.

I agree with you supercat, but it would be nice to see rich & steve shake hands and work together for the future of the league, I do know steve has put in so much towards the league for a long time now and he of all people should have had the opportunity to have held a senior position in the league, but it wasn't to be, and that is sad, that's why he gets upset and he acts the way he does and deservably so, I wouldn't be surprised if steve had already made a schedule supercat, and lets face it a lot of people were upset in the way the presidency was picked I for one was gutted but that is water under the bridge now, it's time to do the right thing here and I say rich has got a big opportunity to be a leader in bonding everyone together and I do hope that he takes advantage of this and rectifies the wrongs that were burdening this league.

I don't want to speak for Steve but I'm almost certain he won't help with any schedules. It'll be up to Rich and those that want the league as it is to work that one out.

I like you have my own opinions of the presidency and the league which I have aired for the most part earlier on in this thread and in others in the past, but the time has gone for bitching, either decide to be in the league and try and help out to get it running quicker. Or decide to read the posts, and keep up to date but stay out of it for the most part, that's what I'm going to do.

Had my say and having nothing more to add no point chewing over the same stuff so over to Rich to decide how best to go ahead!

some of the talk on this forum has got quite ridiculous. you say steve should have been given a more senior role but he didnt want to be anything other than president, he indicated this quite clearly. And if the presidency had gone down to a trainer vote he would not have won either - im not saying rich would have, but it would of been between him and someone like hemz.

everyone speaks of their great admiration for colm, but remember he will have had a big say in rich taking over the presidency, rich will be the guy colm felt would be the right replacement!!

and the previous post about rich being away for two weeks indicated he didnt have time for the league is stupid because this is a computer game and the guy went on holiday for gods sake.

and as for the schedules, the current one is ok and if it did undergo a few changes then if steve didnt want to do it other trainers such as kenny would be able to do a great job of it. his schedule for the game is already very well recieved.

all in all, if everyone wants the league to get underway, be supportive and we'll be racing in no time!!

Who is Hemz? If he got the backing of the trainers why did he not get the job?
Seems to me (and I am not an expert you understand). The new president has done nothing - all talk and no action. Something about p$ss ups and breweries come to mind. Ha Ha

Just had a look at president poll.
Other 18
Rich 12
Steve 11
Other was clear winner and not much between Rich and Steve, with a few people saying they had voted too soon.
Hemz should have been the choice surely.
Why Rich?
Bottoms Up and tally ho friends no doubt. Ha Ha

dont really think craig wanted to do it. he has signalled his intent to quit the game over on yuku - he said work was starting to get heavy for him and he didnt really have as much time and love for the game as he used to!!

yeah that may have been the result of the vote but it was clear who the two major people involved in the decision (colm and jim) wanted and that is rich. the presidency isnt gunna change, so everyone needs to get used to that fact and be supportive so we can get the league underway in the next few weeks.

Do you know that for a fact HR or are you just guessing - maybe this Colm fellow can come on and say if he did suggest Rich as president and why.
Probably doesn't have the guts to do it everything just seems to be done behind closed doors when in fact it is supposed to be a league for everyone.
No bone to pick with this Colm guy just think he should come out and say how and why the president was chosen.
Come on Colm show us your balls mate. Ha Ha

Seems to me that Steve is trying to make it a good experience for everyone and Rich is trying to be kind to the people who voted for him like The Duke and Luke Wilson who lets face it are not average trainers well not legal average trainers anyway.
Its like having the leader of the mafia installed as the head of MI5. Ha Ha.
Good one Rivers I like that! Ha Ha. (Pat on the back for me).

well given the fact that colm was the president and will of had to show the new guy the ropes when handing over the role, im sure he will of had some influence in the decision yeah.

one thing i do know for a fact is that rich wants the league to resume as much as the rest of us - he has horses he wants to run and compete with as well. so trust that he is trying to get the league underway as soon as possible bud!!

So you don't know for sure then HR its only a guess.
Come on Colm and Jim put the record straight did you vote for Rich or not.
He was appointed early June its now late September and nothing has happened. But I will wait and see HR.