No jumps racing in SA.

my flat runners are horses that haven't made my Nh stable. Some of my NH runners are much better than the ones I have in my flat team. Swardberg really should have been running on the flat as she is my best 2 miler by far but I'm sure she will win a graded race in the NH league.

So how come Leon you seemed to like the NH better than flat racing coming from South Africa might be wrong but that's the feeling I get or is it just the game version with me its both much prefer the jumps to flat racing.

I like both in real life but I prefer the game version of NH

2 year olds need racing for two reasons. Their realised potential bar increases in the 1st 4/5 races. Maximum increase in in the 1st 2 races (measuring this from jpgs after each race about 75% in 1st two races). After that I think there's still an increase till the 4/5th race but much less. The other is even if you have a 2 year old with max realized and absolute potential you need to run it because these very often run green.

As for 3 year olds I run them for 5 runs and export in the 2nd half of the year. Some 3 year olds need 1 run at least to run at their best in my experience (don't ask me why none of the bars move). The second is stamina very often increases through the year and I do not know of this is tied in with running or not so I run them for 5 runs (arbitrary number).

As for 4 year olds vs 3 year olds. Like Doc my 2 year olds are 95%+ maximum and realised potential at the end of their 2 year old year. At 3 potential doesn't increase. At 4/5 they do. They gains for my horses are minimal if any in the 4/5th year and they can't beat their 3 year old counterparts. Without looking at your horses in detail at 3/4/5 in game I couldn't say why yours are different. If I had to guess I'd say yours aren't anywhere close to max potential at 2 years but then I know some trainers who are close to max and who still find older horses better. Perhaps it's something in the coding of those horses. Personally I've never found any and I've looked at quite a few horses.




Like you Joe I can tell roughly at the start of the 2 year old season which will reach max potential or not. Those that can't I discard too.

I think in terms of stables you're the closest to my experience that we both find 3 year olds better. I'm not entirely sure it's a max potential thing at 2 as Keith/Paul probably have tried to max potential out at 2 too. Keith obviously rates Feat Ping at 4/5 better than at 3 given what he's entered but we don't know for sure if the 3 year old was worse. Paul finds older horses better too so I think we haven't got a really good working theory as to why some find 3 year olds best and others not (at least for flat).

I think you both spot on with what you saying. You both have bred your 2 year olds/ 3 year olds as max potential early and culled everything else thus making these lines stronger. And thus they are better at 3 as this is their peak age.

The game seems to give you 1/2 years as a peak for a horse. It will still be good at other ages but not as good as its peak year. So what age you want your horse to run at is where most of your max potential bars are. By discarding all horses who haven't peaked at 3 your breeding lines over time have become more focused on the 3 year old peak age.

My breeding lines have become focused on 5/6 so much so that I would say my 3 year olds are 3 to 5 lengths inferior to their older versions.

There is a anomaly in the game where if you transfer horses between games its potential bar improves by as much as 25%. I have no idea why. I have run both the 80% and 100% horse in the ck against each other but have not detected any difference in ability which has led me to believe that some data is hidden and thus you can't see a true reflection of horses ability just on the stats.

With regards unraced horses I like Thunder have a lot of horses in the flat that have never raced. However the process for selecting them is different. If they green do not select them. They will always run green. Secondly the horse runs better at a different distance to what you expect. For example a horse who likes like a miler will be better at 6f. A 2 miler might be better at 12f. There is no way to check this but by trialling. I put my unraced horses into various distance folders and check in the CK which is best.
I run mine from 4. And this is needed for stayers as their stamina seems to improve.

Note Do not follow my process if you want to have horses for the classics on the flat. I do have an unraced horse All About Eve running in the oaks but horses like this are rarities and are not easy to find following my style of breeding

I have put together a Video to show exactly how i export and trial horses
This video is for Newbies interested in Joining The online league but don't know how
to do it.

Trialing is also very important even for those who have no interest in the league
If you want to continue improving your breeding lines & Horses Trialing using
The formula i use will continuously improve your breeding lines and you will constantly
get better quality horses

If You have any questions after watching the Video please dont hesitate to post below

Video > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f9tfYq ... e=youtu.be

Hi Paul
How's things mate
Niice video, good to see you still helping people out mate

Nashwan buddy hows things

I'm fine Paul still in England maybe go back to Thailand November or December
Start playing game after new year
How's thing with you mate
I hope everything ok

Ya all good mate glad to see you back

Hi Paul

How are you mate
I have decided to knock it on the head mate
I have other things in my life that are more important now
Maybe in the future I may come back but I doubt it
So all the best mate its been good fun in the leagues I've entered
All the best to all trainers in futures leagues
Big thanks to everyone on the forum its been good fun

Thanks
Nashwan

Sorry to hear you are packing it in hope to see you involved in future
Best of Luck for the Future Nashwan Buddy stay in touch mate

I have hit the wall with my milers i cant get anymore out of them i think i have maxed out the most you can get out of a horse
i have bred 4 lots of 30 horses who can go no quicker so time to go on to another distance once folder system comes i will
start breeding at alot more distances only have seriously bred the milers and a few mile 4 horses but think i have definitely hit the max
with the milers i have one more group to trial and then move on hate to think how many milers i have bred 1000s

I don't know how you do it paul I would get fed up I have got about 30 horses exported both Flat and Jumps I have not been playing that much the jumps game is not right yet cant see a league for at least six months so got plenty of time yet but by then you should be miles ahead.

Sad to see you go Nash all the best and hope you come back soon.


Gray

I've found breeding jump horses tough, it's taken me about 6 weeks to bred a 2m soft ground chaser. Don't get me started on the 4 milers, u'd think if u bred a 4m with a 4 miler u would get a 4 miler( wrong), I've bred about 150 horses and about 10 turned out to be 4milers. It's tough going.

Sorry to see u go Nash.