simpleminds wrote:
I don't understand the Novice problem Novices are in mature horses like the 2yo Horses on the Flat that's what they are young or late maturing horses the babies of NH Racing I find it offensive like Josh posted that you think its ok to get rid of and turn them into low handicaps Doug you know and I know how you feel about the Australian Flat races being downgraded.
You say you use Cast offs for your NH Team so you never actually Played the NH Game ? perhaps if you did it might help you understand it better there is no way i would ever get rid of Novice races
and thats a full stop
never ever ever and thats from a Jump Fanatic
Gray
I'm not trying to abolish Novices from the league! I am with Martin on this - 4 and 5yo's are novices - so called immature horses - 6yo and up is open grade - mature horses.
I have never said anything about turning novice races into low handicaps - can you please cut and paste my comment where I said that!
You lot were making a mockery of Australian racing in the league straight off the bat and still would be if i didn't speak up - with the exception of Paul who does understand that Australian or any other Country's racing should be respected.
Look at the poll for changing the minimum age of GN horses - it's a tie between 6yo and 7yo!
1 vote to keep it as it is!
So to change Open class to 6yo+ seems quite feesible - which will draw a distinct line between Novice and Open and if an Open race is open to Novices then no worries!
If you are a trainer smashing out generations in an afternoon on a modified schedule - juggling ttf files between folders - then i can't see what the problem is! It would take you no more than 10mins to age a horse or 150 horses, one more year.
Unlike trainers who play a whole season.
If you look thru the ages of horses in the Hunt by a lot of the mid and low trainers (myself excluded) there are a lot of older horses and these players obviously are playing the Hunt game and breeding Hunt horses. Maybe the reason why a lot of horses potential drops a little at 6yo is that your breeding is top heavy Flat?
50% of Leon's stable is 6yo+ with the oldest being a 9yo and we all know Leon only plays a Hunt game with his cast offs in the Flat.
I applaud Darren for his radical solution - that took courage......something that i have thought but would never have suggested in the forums. Interesting how no one is taking pot shots at him!
Gray - I do play a casual jumps game with the best part of it as being the jockey. I do have a small breeding stable - but you know....I'm an idiot for enjoying playing full seasons and for being that idiot i really only have time to concentrate on my flat stable.
For the most part I enter Flat cast offs in the Hunt to try and help make the numbers look good.
Novice racing in the League is in name only - when you have one of the big five trainers come out and state if they have a good horse they put it in Novice racing to avoid handicap racing and getting a big weight.
My advice for future mid to low level trainers - skip Novice class - you may as well be racing in Open class and you may get lucky in an Open Hcp because the big trainers are trying to avoid their best horses carrying weight by making them Novices.
You know - some people are having a crack at Hans - thinking he is cheating or running his horses over unsuitable distances to gain advantage - but the majority of you are church mice when James Shea brought his GN winner back - ran it in hurdles because he didn't need to qualify that horse and exploited the game to his advantage so his horse didn't carry a big weight! Legal cheating!
Gray - nothing personal matey - business as usual.
I gotta go to work.