Agreed, I wonder if anyone knew about about this and didnt say anything.

That's very true as well, obviously The Duke had found it out and hasn't said anything until now, but he wasn't playing the league so it was irrelevant, but there's a very good chance there could be others who had foud it out for themselves and hasn't said anything, and so benefitted. I for one am in the clear as anyone looking at my horses' performances will see, but I'm disappointed that there is such a loophole in the game that could be very easily exploited without detection. If Paul says it has taken 0.5 seconds off his times that is a lot in the league and the fact that there may have been people with that advantage not really putting in anymore hard work and benefitting is a disappointing thought

I tried it out paul and it has improved my horses times by 1 sec..I trialled for newmarket 3yo and my league horses were doing 1.38.5 now my newly bred horses that were just bred by gamebreds a few days ago can clock 1.37.6 regularly..I thought I was dreaming. that is amazing the difference in times..these horses were just 2 gen horses I bred yesterday that ran against my horses that I invested so many seasons in and just smoked the hell out of them..the 3yos even beat my 5 year olds up badly at ascot..Its like I dont need 4 or 5 yr olds anymore..this is so amazing everyone has to try it it just helps your horse reach potential a year early unlike the uk game where it does not increase from 2 to 3..it really helps beginners like me but for veteran trainers already reaching max with 3yos then no need...
p.s. this is my first time knowing about this so I am innocent you can tell by how my horses ran in the league..

all i can say is i never knew soon as i tested this for myself i showed the evidence
there is no way of telling if anyone did this before or knew about it
if people or persons did know and did gain an advantage then that door is well and truly shut now
because everyone can see the evidence for themselves
all i can say is i have always been open and honest about what i do

I might hold off on going mad with the breeding just now, this seems like a blatant glitch/cheat in the game and it means every single player will now have to do this to have a chance, or a new patch and a new start will be required for everyone. This could get messy.

i am actually incredibly shocked
i worked so hard on my team for this season
put in 1000s of seasons to my team maybe tens of thousands
i thought blimey people are putting loads of time even more than me to find monsters
and now in 3 seasons of breeding 1st generation 3yo my times are tumbling
and making my other horses look like donkeys
i have not even trialed seriously yet
or got to 2nd or 3rd gen

shocked

i think its too late doc
i am just very shocked by this
i feel my hard work has been completely wasted
time and effort put in wasted

the fact is we don't know if anyone did this
for this season
its a gutwrencher IMO

.I know PJ, you know how hard it is to get times down by .1, its like hitting a brick wall, then you find out after hundreds of hours that all you had to do was breed them in aus then import to uk to take half a second off!

seems to have been a closely guarded secret as i said previous the league is now more open than it ever was nice to see one of the old players give up the secret of wonderhorses when i think of the hours ive enjoyed playing this game trying to find that 1 game changer to be competetive in the league.its quite sad really that this loophole is there but at least i know my horses havnt been through superbreeding and all my wins have come through hours and hours of trial and error(mainly error) please patch this mark as this game should be fair to ALL not just those in the know with hard work comes the rewards.

exactly the same mate the hours put in
at least i enjoyed doing it
it does leave a bad taste in the mouth
especially if any trainer knew about this and took advantage of this

There are two issues here. One is that there is an advantage to be gained but perhaps as a result of a bug and one that should be rectified so everyone has a level playing field. It's not going to be too hard to find out which trainers use this method of breeding. Certainly Mark can have a look at the files submitted and I'm willing to bet that those trainers using this method will have all their horses showing max potential beyond what a UK/US/Ireland trainer could have at the age of 3. I can categorically state that all my horses are bred on the UK game and a quick look at their stats will confirm that easily.

Looking at the flags for the horses in races entered maybe an indirect way of finding this out. It's interesting as there are only 2 trainers I've seen that have horses with Australian flags. What's worse is there are actually trainers who have horses running under the US flag which would be a double whammy for the league.

Anyway I'm glad this has come to light . As far as what Mark can do - I'm sure there is a way he can detect the advantage gained as it appears to be a linear amount to be gained in terms of how stats increase from 3-5 years old in the game (Aussie horses seem to get this stat increase at the age of 3 instead of increasing over 3-5 as for UK horses) and it could be easy to simply detect this in the CK kit and scale this back (and indeed scale forward if the horses from the US and Ireland are disadvantaged).

the only way to deal with this is for mark to block transfers between nations

the problem is when you transfer aussie bred to uk they become ck monsters
if you trial them in ck from your australian game they are no good
so to block transfers from nation to a different nation would fix this

Andy i dont think its an issue about max potential its a boost in ability in ck
yes the stats get a boost in aus but so does the ability for the horse to run very quick in ck

i have had several horses at 3 with max potential that are 30 or 40 generation bred maybe more generations
that get no where near my aussie breds
and they are 1st gen bred

Well a quick trial for me shows some improvement but still hasn't taken me below 2.29 at Epsom. I'm sure Mark can sort this out without too much hassle. In any case it's easy to recognise these horses on their stats. You simply cannot get a horse to the max potential seen at 3 in the Aussie game without breeding them there. That last bit of potential can only be achieved by UK horses at 4/5.

If anything I'm enjoying this even more as I've beat the trainers that did use this trick. Lol