This is what I would do.

Let's say all the Full Time breeders( let say there's 3, Me-Paul-Steve) put up 10 horses each Either jumps or flat. We Show the horse like this.



We show the horses data like this.



We show the Form like this.

And then we write a little summary like this.

A miler that's a hold up horse that might or might not be suited to the league's running style, if he gets pace to run at then he might be top class.

Distance: 1m
Going: Good

We don't give the person the actual horse but we give it to Leon so he could put the horse into TOM (then there can be no cheating). I think all the trainers that put horses up for Sale can't buy any and I say give everyone 100,000 to buy in a open sale perhaps a week before the season. U can buy up to 5 flat or Jump horses. It would be a bit like real life in that people buy Point to Points and they never really know what they are getting.

If this had happened last league season I would have put up a Full Brother to my star horse Lo Stregone, his name was Carvill's Hill and he had a right battle with his brother in my trials what I didn't know until I checked before I put them both in my league team was that they were full brothers and I couldn't put both horses in my team. I would certainly have put him up for sale.

good ideas

Yes very good ideas Ghost.

I would also like to compensate trainers that do this.

They would receive the money from the sale, but what would they do with it?

Anyone who wanted to just battle on with their own horses wouldn't need to buy anything.

Great to have a thread on here again. Hopefully, it can push the next season a bit closer.

A couple of very interesting ideas.

Personally, I would rather not have anybody else's horses because it would dilute my enjoyment of having a winner. I'm nowhere near a world beater in the league but I would rather win races I have earned, not through purchasing cast offs.

However, that is only my opinion. If only trainers of similar standing to me are keen then go for it. I would prefer it to be optional not compulsory

As a trainer of similar standing I agree. To be frank.. I feel like it has been the "greats" that have been driving this discussion. I don't disagree with changing things in general but as I have mentioned before, I feel a new breeding thread where the elite share their tips and tricks again would be more helpful to level the playing field. I read the akhc(?) thread and made it past 96% potential within two hours after being stuck there for days. I had produced roughly 60 horses with 96% potential as a three year old...

@pj

When I saw your latest 2 year old in the general forum I wondered about the II II II name. I feel this is related to importing the same filly multiple times? It throws an error if done with the same export/horse. Does it still create the same error if I export such a horse multiple times before trying to import all of those exports? Details like these make me wonder what other "tricks" I am missing in relation to breeding.

The II II II in the names is to do with transferring the same horse into the game over and over again to use for breeding. If you export them to the game pool the game will automatically overwrite any previous version of the horse. But if you import a horse into a game where that name already exists they'll get a II next to their name. Like if you transfer a game horse from one game to another you get it too.

I have always been open and honest about what i do i get as much enjoyment seeing new trainers have success
in the league in some cases enjoy it more. I think I helped Ghostzapper a few seasons back showed him (on the forum not hidden)
how to export horses for re use and how to use the ttf files for importing horses into new games he became a champion
and i felt really proud to have helped him along the way TBH i was a slow starter when it came to the ttf file the re using of horses.
i was at least a year behind AKHC and other top trainers who used it a year before i did even find out that horses could be reused.
once i knew i shared my knowledge & i always have shared anything i have found out on this forum.

To Answer you main question if you transfer a horse say frankel when you transfer him into a new game he bocomes Frankel I
when you export the copy he will become Frankel II and so on.

This has been done and used by most trainers in the lge the ttf file i think came in at the start of SO5
If you dont know about this its probably because the thread/post has become burred its not because it was hidden from you
I can try and find it for you it explains everything in how to re use export and import horses.

TBH any trainer that does not use the ttf system will be at a big disadvantage in the lge

god took me ages to find it

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=7945

I know how to reuse horses. This is my breeding strategy:

1. I export everything I want to reuse/see potential in after their 2yo season.
2. I make a copy of the TTF File in a seperate folder and exit SO6 without saving.
3. I restart and don't export the horses when ending the season a second time.
4. I run the 3yo season and export to CK after maximum realised potential has been achieved (either a full bar or five races)
5. I check which horses I want to keep/breed with based on CK trial runs. I decide on a colt and on 5 fillies to use for breeding

Generally I set up my breeding the following way

1. Start new game and sell all five horses. Redo until I have achieved 2m +
2. Import Colt and the 5 fillies. Create folder for breeding line on harddrive
3. Copy savegame to breeding line folder and delete current ttf ( backup with all horses obviously retained )
4. Achieve maximum realized potential for all horses and send to stud.
5. Breed all five fillies with the colt. ( if unable to do so succesfully, use save from step 3)
6. At the 18th of December with all five fillies being in Foal I copy the save game to a subfolder within the breeding line folder
7. Go through the Age 4/5/6 seasons while breeding every year. See earlier list for steps.
8. Copy and paste savegame from step 6 to the save folder again. Repeat until I have 5+ horses I really like.

I might change it up a little from time to time. But this is generally my approach to breeding. I reckon I have around 40+ ttf files with multiple horses at this point.

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Thanks. I hope it wasn't too much of a hassle.

In a nutshell, this is why new players don't join the league. They can't compete.

Giving them a way in by using sales, might get them interested in becoming league trainers.

As it stands only a few have any chance of winning group races.

Personally I am very happy to try to win the lower standard handicaps.

But others might want to be a bit more competitive.

Giving new players the choice through purchasing cast offs via a sales ring is probably the way to go.

no hassle at all Namor

I totally agree with this. But it shouldn't be compulsory and I also don't think you should be able to breed with these horses. If you want to send horses to the sale send them, if you don't then don't. Same with buying, if you want to buy then buy if you don't then ignore. That's why I think it would be better to implement for horses people want to get rid of rather than horses which people don't know the potential of yet.

gotta add to steves(teleprompter) post new trainers have also got to be better at horse management they have to realise that their in game superstar turns out to be an average league horse and set them realistic sights I only realised this in my second season when I won 2 major hancpps and the pleasure I got from them was awesome but my first season was a disaster over trying my string.

after the first 2 weeks of maidens you will have a good idea of how to place your string

Totally agree. Be realistic. If your not in the money in the maidens, chances are your horse is going to be a handicapper. There are exceptions but in general that is the way to go.

I have to agree. You see so many new trainers put their horses straight into group/graded races only to finish tailed off. We need to try to ensure newbies go through the maiden route first and take it from there. I get as much pleasure from a maiden place as I do a low handicap winner. At least I know then I have at least one horse capable of running in the best races