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Githyanki
Group 1 winner
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:16 pm Posts: 2440
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 Re: Weekly Reaction
That's a good achievement, I only had two wins in the whole season my first outing in the league.
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Wed May 24, 2017 7:58 am |
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Githyanki
Group 1 winner
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:16 pm Posts: 2440
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 Re: Weekly Reaction
Another blank day for me, few places, nothing really to shout about, team is just trailing now for the week five cut window.
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Wed May 24, 2017 8:00 am |
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Moliets_Surfer
Handicapper
Joined: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:18 pm Posts: 424 Location: Germany
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Wed May 24, 2017 8:34 am |
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Pommard
Group 2 winner
Joined: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:58 pm Posts: 779
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Up and down day 3. Bagged a suprise flat win in the mile handicap, with a horse that I really fancied last week over 9 furlongs. What do I know I'm only the trainer. Nothing much else to speak about but my national horse ran really badly again. Not sure where to go as he trials better than any national horse I have ever had and I am always competetive in the race. Congats to all winners and thr team running it all.
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Wed May 24, 2017 9:26 am |
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Wannabe
Group 2 winner
Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:22 pm Posts: 739 Location: Fife, Scotland
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Flat
An average week on the flat. No winners, but 8 out of 9 runners in the money.
Jumps
A good week over fences with 3 winners, including a G1 winner, and a bunch of placers which included 6 second places.
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Wed May 24, 2017 11:19 pm |
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Anadin
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:20 am Posts: 1077 Location: Spain
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The rest of the days after the "Dansili Blue" debacle (I really believe the Stewards should of got involved in this one, not even a "Stewards Enquirey" flagged up at end of race, so obviously an error on the part of the race kit, & before you all start, no its nothing like the pull-up problems)
Felt really cheated by it and sadly did consider pulling the lot.
Anyhow the rest just got worse so a really really disappointing week!
(Its taken me two days to calm down lol)
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Thu May 25, 2017 10:35 am |
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Kevcon
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:36 pm Posts: 1147
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 Re: Weekly Reaction
Anadin wrote: The rest of the days after the "Dansili Blue" debacle (I really believe the Stewards should of got involved in this one, not even a "Stewards Enquirey" flagged up at end of race, so obviously an error on the part of the race kit, & before you all start, no its nothing like the pull-up problems)
Felt really cheated by it and sadly did consider pulling the lot.
Anyhow the rest just got worse so a really really disappointing week!
(Its taken me two days to calm down lol) Agree with this and was about to post the same. How can a horse be dq'ed without an enquiry called? I just watched the race and couldn't see anything wrong at all. As for my only current horse, Ramses an even pace runner gets held up until its pulled up in the 4m3f chase. Since the SO6 league started I must be pretty close to having more 3m+ horses being pulled up than complete the course and I doubt I'm the only one. On a brighter note, I have got my PC fixed and should have some nags to upload when the window opens.
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Thu May 25, 2017 11:22 am |
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Githyanki
Group 1 winner
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:16 pm Posts: 2440
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I believe I was the race runner for that one, and I must admit I did not even notice the dsq until it was mentioned here. Having looked at the race again only thing I can see is some side to side movement, they seem to go closer to the rail in the close, though there is an undulating track also. Certainly not enough there for me to merit a disqualification.
It does pose an interesting question mind, should the race runner intervene if he notices something like this? I am initially inclined to say no, even though this is painfully unfair, as I am not sure where you would stop. The racekit has all sorts of issues that hit us all, pull ups, stop riding, taking a mystery pull on the reigns in the last 2f, and of course that it totally favours certain run styles, they just suck more when your winners are few and far between. However it is not a hard thing to do if there is agreement, we just lack a process for this when running races.
Maybe merits a little debate?
Josh
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Thu May 25, 2017 1:09 pm |
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Kevcon
Group 1 winner
Joined: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:36 pm Posts: 1147
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Githyanki wrote: I believe I was the race runner for that one, and I must admit I did not even notice the dsq until it was mentioned here. Having looked at the race again only thing I can see is some side to side movement, they seem to go closer to the rail in the close, though there is an undulating track also. Certainly not enough there for me to merit a disqualification.
It does pose an interesting question mind, should the race runner intervene if he notices something like this? I am initially inclined to say no, even though this is painfully unfair, as I am not sure where you would stop. The racekit has all sorts of issues that hit us all, pull ups, stop riding, taking a mystery pull on the reigns in the last 2f, and of course that it totally favours certain run styles, they just suck more when your winners are few and far between. However it is not a hard thing to do if there is agreement, we just lack a process for this when running races.
Maybe merits a little debate?
Josh What do you mean "should the race runner intervene...", the role of the race runner is to run the races, nothing more nothing less. All of the problems with the racekit are present in game and therefore unlikely to be fixed until they are sorted out in game first.
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Thu May 25, 2017 1:56 pm |
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Githyanki
Group 1 winner
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:16 pm Posts: 2440
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Re run the race. And before I get into another ding dong, it is a discussion point not a view 
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Thu May 25, 2017 2:10 pm |
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simpleminds
Group 1 winner
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 5:56 pm Posts: 5746 Location: uk
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Although races have been re run before due to errors by us race runners i.e Wrong Distance wrong code wrong age even running it Open instead of Filles and Colts races on this issue we should not intervene it shows the game has faults and maybe Mark can look into the issues of Pull Up's and horses being thrown out may be a suggestion that when there is to be a stewards Inquiry Mark can give us a Replay of it maybe from a Cam angle looking down from the winning post.
Gray
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Thu May 25, 2017 3:18 pm |
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Anadin
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:20 am Posts: 1077 Location: Spain
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simpleminds wrote: Although races have been re run before due to errors by us race runners i.e Wrong Distance wrong code wrong age even running it Open instead of Filles and Colts races on this issue we should not intervene it shows the game has faults and maybe Mark can look into the issues of Pull Up's and horses being thrown out may be a suggestion that when there is to be a stewards Inquiry Mark can give us a Replay of it maybe from a Cam angle looking down from the winning post. Gray I appreciate the comments everyone. Horses only get thrown out in my personal use of the game after an "Inquiry" flag, this did not happen, so its not a repetitive glitch like poor jockey AI or the pull-up scenario.... I am happy to stand corrected if you have all experienced this in your actual game before or in the league under this racekit. If this had been a G1, say a Ryan air or the Derby this would of been all over the forum, cries of re-run, unfair, etc etc. But as its a little handicap it appears swept under the carpet, only 2 people (Paul & Kevcon) actually taking the time to comment others I imagine putting it down to the games idiosyncrasy & the trainers now "sore loser" attitude I have taken it personally (prob way to much  ) but as Josh mentioned when you don't win many its a tough pill to swallow along with a horse winning back to backs is something special in the league imo and to a bottom trainer even more so.
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Thu May 25, 2017 4:42 pm |
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ghostzapper74
Group 1 winner
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:03 am Posts: 4148 Location: Wales
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Boys I ran the race and I can honestly say I thought he was in trouble( first time I've seen it in a race) he kind of cocks his head towards the other horse and they go left together.
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Thu May 25, 2017 5:25 pm |
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Anadin
Group 1 winner
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:20 am Posts: 1077 Location: Spain
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ghostzapper74 wrote: Boys I ran the race and I can honestly say I thought he was in trouble( first time I've seen it in a race) he kind of cocks his head towards the other horse and they go left together. Agree John with the movement of my horses head, but this is a NH race over an undulating course and the head pull to the left does not stop Nou Barris, no checking of run, no jockey position change & NO STEWARDS INQUIRY called. Your a braver man than me if you really did think he was in trouble before the result We will leave it at that, the win has gone & although v.unhappy with it, nothing can be changed, I was surprised that it was not more of a talking point in the forums, as we have all discussed in length a lot less... 
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Thu May 25, 2017 6:20 pm |
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Lordedaw
Group 2 winner
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:29 am Posts: 801 Location: Warwickshire
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Anadin wrote: ghostzapper74 wrote: Boys I ran the race and I can honestly say I thought he was in trouble( first time I've seen it in a race) he kind of cocks his head towards the other horse and they go left together. Agree John with the movement of my horses head, but this is a NH race over an undulating course and the head pull to the left does not stop Nou Barris, no checking of run, no jockey position change & NO STEWARDS INQUIRY called. Your a braver man than me if you really did think he was in trouble before the result We will leave it at that, the win has gone & although v.unhappy with it, nothing can be changed, I was surprised that it was not more of a talking point in the forums, as we have all discussed in length a lot less...  Hopefully my surprise was obvious in the commentary .... but even in real racing stewards make some right dopey decisions. Remember the Leger a few years ago. Not sure what can be done about theses things ..... probably nothing. Must be very frustrating though. Could I maybe suggest as recompense the horses handicap rating is not raised on the back of the performance as it would be in real racing.
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Thu May 25, 2017 11:39 pm |
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