Githyanki wrote:
My successful jump horses usually don’t win anything until they are 6+. My best trail horses on the flat don’t usually win anything period. Almost without exception my best game horses are rubbish in the ck so I go on look, gut and utterly ignore game results in horse selection, they are meaningless for league breeding again.
If mark had fixed nothing else he should have fixed that.
I've not tried anything jumps wise yet, and haven't in the past, so won't have much to compare to. However, I find the flat game very similar to SO6 in relation to 'game form' relating to 'CK Form'. I will admit it may be slightly less correlation but not quite extreme yet. But I do agree, I think making game form an CK form more related should have been a big target for SO7. Especially now there are no background stats on show.
What I do find is - Consistency in your game form is much more important winning loads of Group races. If I have a horse that's won 8 Gp1s, but in all the races around it, it was finishing midfield, and a horse running in the same races who finished in the top 3 or 4 in all 16 of those races but not won a single group 1, I'd be much more excited about trialing the second horse.
SiriusChill wrote:
I'm probably spoiled by my success in game with SO6 but do you guys find that in SO7 that your first time starters usually lose? Many times they lose badly. The keepers most times end up having solid group winning careers which is a bit surprising considering their awful debuts.
I have noticed this, usually my 2yos that win their first 2 or 3, never really train on either, I've found the best horses in my trials now seem to have had 2yo careers where they haven't won loads, but always there or thereabouts.