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				 ghostzapper74 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						Ante Price for the Gold Cup
  Alarica ( Cahill) 7-1Jf Vertigo (Leon) 7-1jf Mystic Beat ( Leon) 8-1 Greenbank Park( Mine) 9-1 Dublin Flyer( Mine) 10-1 Another Champion( Cahill) 12-1 S Jacky Boy(Keenan)12-1 Monaazalah( Shadwell) 14-1 Champion ( Moore) 14-1 Milk Heart ( Clutterbucket) 14-1 German Spy( Leon) 14-1 She's A Lady (Moore) 16-1 La Bise (Dean) 20-1 Winning Streak ( Robertson) 22-1 C E Fire engine( Murray)25-1 Mooncall( Dean) 25-1 Musanid(Follis) 25-1 S Srtayers Baba (Keenan) 25-1 Regency Rose(Hickman)28-1 Eam Alcirurs Jack(Keenan) 28-1 Night Hunter( Robertson) 28-1 Ce Shoeless Girl (Murray) 33-1 Grey Bear ( Clutterbuck) 40-1 War Victory ( Hickman) 40-1 Angel Annie(Moore) 40-1 BT Corporate Express( Murray) 40-1 Apache Dawn ( Driver) 40-1 Takeaway(Hinton) 50-1 Pride Of Sherwood ( Cairns) 50-1 Sky Cha ( Elvidge) 50-1 Coming For Sjack( Keenan) 50-1 Menicing Matt( Paul) 66-1 
					
							
  
							
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				 ghostzapper74 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						Ante Post For The World Hurdle
  Motivator Man( Cahill) 8-1f Ancient Of Love ( Leon) 9-1 Newnham( Mine) 9-1 Street Force ( Cahill) 10-1 BullFighter ( Follis) 12-1 Blazing Knight( Moore) 14-1 Tiny Heart( Meenaghan) 14-1 Octopussy( Moore) 16-1 Regents War ( Hickman) 16-1 Fats Waller ( Robertson) 16-1 Queen of Spades( Mine) 16-1 North by Northwest ( Leon) 18-1 Itqaan( Shadwell) 22-1 Sonic Glory ( Meenaghan) 25-1 S Alci Jack (Keenan) 25-1 Head Mistress( Moore) 25-1 S Mea Alci( Cahill) 25-1 Flushing Meadow(Keenan) 25-1 Crusing Speed(Clutterbuck) 50-1 Duo ( Dean) 50-1 Truce ( Elvidge) 50-1 
					
  
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				 leonvr 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						These are all Great. Thanks You can scratch V for Victory from the Gold cup he doesn't stay 3m2.  Its between the other 3 you have priced up and depends on the ground. Vertigo is still the most likely.
  I still fancy Home Made for the oaks. She will be close. 
					
  
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				 Kevcon 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						ghostzapper74 wrote: Ante Post For The World Hurdle
  Motivator Man( Cahill) 8-1f Ancient Of Love ( Leon) 9-1 Newnham( Mine) 9-1 Street Force ( Cahill) 10-1 BullFighter ( Follis) 12-1 Blazing Knight( Moore) 14-1 Tiny Heart( Meenaghan) 14-1 Octopussy( Moore) 16-1 Regents War ( Hickman) 16-1 Fats Waller ( Robertson) 16-1 Queen of Spades( Mine) 16-1 North by Northwest ( Leon) 18-1 Itqaan( Shadwell) 22-1 Sonic Glory ( Meenaghan) 25-1 S Alci Jack (Keenan) 25-1 Head Mistress( Moore) 25-1 S Mea Alci( Cahill) 25-1 Flushing Meadow(Keenan) 25-1 Crusing Speed(Clutterbuck) 50-1 Duo ( Dean) 50-1 Truce ( Elvidge) 50-1 Max Win and Max EW Tiny Feet 14/1  
					
  
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				 ghostzapper74 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						Kevcon wrote: ghostzapper74 wrote: Ante Post For The World Hurdle
  Motivator Man( Cahill) 8-1f Ancient Of Love ( Leon) 9-1 Newnham( Mine) 9-1 Street Force ( Cahill) 10-1 BullFighter ( Follis) 12-1 Blazing Knight( Moore) 14-1 Tiny Heart( Meenaghan) 14-1 Octopussy( Moore) 16-1 Regents War ( Hickman) 16-1 Fats Waller ( Robertson) 16-1 Queen of Spades( Mine) 16-1 North by Northwest ( Leon) 18-1 Itqaan( Shadwell) 22-1 Sonic Glory ( Meenaghan) 25-1 S Alci Jack (Keenan) 25-1 Head Mistress( Moore) 25-1 S Mea Alci( Cahill) 25-1 Flushing Meadow(Keenan) 25-1 Crusing Speed(Clutterbuck) 50-1 Duo ( Dean) 50-1 Truce ( Elvidge) 50-1 Max Win and Max EW Tiny Feet 14/1 I see ex flat horse, I wonder how many have gone  over the jumps after running on the flat. Kevin what was the reason why he didn't run so well in the first week.  
					
  
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				 ghostzapper74 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						leonvr wrote: These are all Great. Thanks You can scratch V for Victory from the Gold cup he doesn't stay 3m2.  Its between the other 3 you have priced up and depends on the ground. Vertigo is still the most likely.
  I still fancy Home Made for the oaks. She will be close. V is gone. I think the oaks is wide open, all to play for.  
					
  
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				 Kevcon 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						ghostzapper74 wrote: I see ex flat horse, I wonder how many have gone  over the jumps after running on the flat. Kevin what was the reason why he didn't run so well in the first week. I run most of my trials at Cheltenham, Newbury and Sandown so all I can think of is she didn't handle the track.  
					
  
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				 keithbeaky 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						Get It Barks will not run in the Derby. Sir Luke could be a big price. Prices on the Melbourne yet?     
					
  
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				 simpleminds 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						Ascot Gold Cup? Fancy I have a chance after Wanted for myself ran Matt Cruise Ship to under a length first time I can wonder if I have a group horse on the Flat. 
					
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				 keithbeaky 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						We need a listed or group race over 2m2-2m4 before the gold cup really. Horses don't have many options. 
					
  
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				 ghostzapper74 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						keithbeaky wrote: Get It Barks will not run in the Derby. Sir Luke could be a big price. Prices on the Melbourne yet?    Mr Beaky  1-10F The Rest  100-1       
					
  
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				 ghostzapper74 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						simpleminds wrote: Ascot Gold Cup? Fancy I have a chance after Wanted for myself ran Matt Cruise Ship to under a length first time I can wonder if I have a group horse on the Flat. I'll have a look at that  tomm. Should be Good.  
					
  
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				 nick_driver 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						ghostzapper74 wrote: simpleminds wrote: Ascot Gold Cup? Fancy I have a chance after Wanted for myself ran Matt Cruise Ship to under a length first time I can wonder if I have a group horse on the Flat. I'll have a look at that  tomm. Should be Good. None of them will get near Careless Whisper! I know when I have a good thing for the race   . Saying that though I don't know quite how good it is compared to the other 2 I had 2nd and 1st in the race.  
					
  
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				 keithbeaky 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						There are quite a few form lines for the Ascot Gold Cup. Gray and Nick ran horses in both maidens and some trainers ran the same horse in both maidens.
  How do Gray and Nick rate their horses? Is Nick's maiden winner that much better than the horse that ran in this weeks maiden? How would Gray compare his two? 
					
  
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				 nick_driver 
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				  Re: Ante Post Markets  
					
						Capriosa was 10th in the maiden roughly 5/6 lengths off Cruise ship, Careless Whisper beat Certainty by about a 1 1/2 and Cruise Ship beat Certainty the same over a furlong less. Careless Whisper routinely beats Capriosa by a minimum of 5 Lengths at Ascot over 2m4f. Capriosa also didn't like the ground when finishing 10th. I think if the ground comes up G/F or Firmer I can't see Careless Whisper out of the top 3 especially with Certainty wanting Soft and the others wanting good. 
					
							
  
							
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