not really PJ, think its just luck, for some reason I always get epsom horses, was the same in SO4, in my only season in the league my Derby horse was well beaten in the trials but was only beaten a head in the Derby after looking the winner a furlong out, think it was Kenny who won it.

Only thing I could suggest is taking your two best ck 1m4 stallions and breeding with all your best ck sprint mares, not only will you get a bunch of good milers and 1m2 horses, you can get a freak sprinter or a freak 1m4 horse. I also done it the other way around, best sprint stallions with my best staying mares. It brings full knew blood lines in and if your lucky you might get a freak that will improve your lines, even if you dont get the 1m4 freak you should at least get a couple good enough to add into your 1m and 1m2 lines so its worth doing imo.

thanks Doc will give it a go

Times might not be the be all and end all when it comes to the league, some people use pacemakers, 90% of my horses race handy so its unrealistic settings thats producing the times.

Ahkc has to be the early favourite but we wont really know until after the first week, I dont think anyone will dominate like Scatters did, there wont be much between a lot of trainers so it should be relatively open at most distances.

i think the reduction in stable size is good makes it difficult for one person to dominate

Scatters domination wasn't down to superior quality of his horses despite them being very good he was wise to the lack of pace and capitalised on that by breeding front runners and handy types and stealing races from the front.

Just knocked off almost a whole second off the 1m1f time.... (0.95sec)

10f 2:2:85

Don't feel too bad if Truth Or Lie is still you best horse after 2 weeks of breeding PJ. I don't know how many generations I've done at 10f since this one was bred in August of this year. It's still the one to beat for me

Darn you akhc! I ran a 2.2.87 earlier on again in Group 1 conditions off 9st 6lb but was holding onto that one.

I hope that wasn't a low weight performance in a handicap that's toppled me.

Nah this one was legit. Group 1 race but I suspect if your actively breeding at this distance then you'll beat it. I've kinda given up on everything over 1m as I'm not having much joy getting times down though I probably will revisit 1m6f at some point before Xmas just for the league to see if I can go any faster. It's the sprinters that I really have high hopes for.

Couple of record times to add, the mile record obtained in Gp1, the 15f obtained in a Listed event.

1m Sussex Stakes

You are calling me out akhc!

ha you 2 having a personal battle with these times update on way